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Why dont WE make a freelancer 2?

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Post Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:45 pm

Why dont WE make a freelancer 2?

Just an idea, but why dont ALL the modmakers work together to make 1 big unofficial freelancer 2, instead of little things like addons and ships?

This way, we wouldnt have to wait for Microsoft to make a sequal?

Please post your opinions on this

Post Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:30 pm

3 words for ya. read. the. stickies. i think theres a guy already going to do a bit.
blackhole i think he was called

You know its monday when your handgun backfires into your face

MM2

Post Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:48 am

Alt. 6 words
Bill-Gates.transphasic.chroniton.atomic.lawyers.flood

P.S i am the old GDI officer that posted the avange the donut(i lost the darn narn password!!)
http://www.lancersreactor.com/t/Downloa ... sp?ID=1235

Post Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:27 am

That seven words by the way,MM2.Bill and Gates are really two seperate words.

Post Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:20 am

Hello.

Yes, i proposed the idea and have been waiting on a graphics engine to make the game engine around. The big fat problem? I still don't have the graphics engine, and it would take bleeping forever to make a graphics engine. Keep in mind i'm not doing this alone, and if you guys really wanted to make FL2, you'd have to help me.

And theres a buncha copyright stuff we need to get around. I've thought through most of it through, and as long as we don't use the name "Freelancer" or any other name thats used for that matter, and we don't give any hint to the original FL storyline, nomads, new york, we can't even hint at the huge battle of sol or the coalition. If we take all those precautions then we could make FL2 (or again, whatever it ends up being called) with no copyright infringements.

But i'm not going to do it alone.

EDIT: Read the sticky that says FL2 ideas, i posted around the 13th page, telling you guys what was planned and possible with what i was planning for. and this is a COMPLETELY NEW GAME. NOT a mod. The reason is that a whole bunch of the really good ideas require a new game engine.


FL:CE Mod Team Leader

Edited by - Blackhole2001 on 10/23/2005 10:31:34 AM

Post Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:33 pm

I believe if we spent half the time and effort that we spend dreaming and talking about FL2 we could have made a good part of FL2 by ourselves already.

Post Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:49 pm

i don't see why FL2 would use any other game engine - you're just asking for trouble,FL is perfect and ready.and all you'd have to do for FL2 is:
upgrade every texture
update every house according to a projection based on the conclusion of FL
replace every city
replace most or all ships,create new ones in every class
create new character models and voices
script 13 missions from scratch
replace every sound effect
edit the HUD somewhat at least
replace all the starspheres
create new commodities,bases and factions reflecting more than a century of progress

now consider doing that in a different engine...
commodities behavior?hardpoints still compatible?weapons compatible? voices? animations? meshes? - yah its a nightmare and if you don't call it FL2,don't have anything from FL in it,doesn't even include the alliance/coalition backstory - its not Freelancer


Edited by - Cold_Void on 10/23/2005 11:50:10 PM

Post Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:44 pm

I know ur right Blackhole,but Cold Void has a good point,if we didnt' have those things,it just wouldn't be Freelancer.

Post Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:20 pm

Well, be my guest. The problem is that there are severe limitations on FL's game engine and that upgrading to a better one would yeild more results. I'm not taking part in a mod like that, because your pushing freelancer to its limits. Freelancer has limits, people, you can't just "upgrade" every single aspect. Have we unlocked ALE files? No. Have we unlocked SUR files? Not fully, we're close, but not yet. What you are creating is an upgrade. I hardly call it freelancer 2, because it isn't. Its just another mod that upgrades freelancer.

And need i mention that almost all the ideas in the FL2 thread are absolutly impossible with the current game engine?

Edited by - Blackhole2001 on 10/24/2005 10:20:55 PM

Post Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:20 am

wellllllll; we could always ask permission to do our own thing, from the guys who own the copywrite. (although we might need money to greese the wheel)

Post Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:02 pm

Theyve already done that, many times. Theyre being greedy and stupid. Mabe if we could get a software company to sponsor? What about distributition? Its not like we can dl a whole game by internet, too risky. Imagine dling the whole gig or 2 to find that a file or 2 is corrupted!

I'm A Forum Bowser!

Post Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:53 am

Blackhole, if you want to create a new engine, sign me on.
I dont know anything about programming however, I only just have started to teach myself C++. If you give me a month or two, You could probly point me in the direction af some small part you want done, and I could work on it.

*Reads over post*

Wow, now I just sound like an Idiot.

Post Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:36 pm

what about torque as a game engine?
i know alot of good torque games, very flexable
of corse the only other game engine i know is the quake ones and well....



My forum

Post Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:38 pm

Yeah, we should just "erase" all the systems, make new stuff and just upgrade, no new engine required

Post Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:59 pm

i totally agree with BH... i mean, we cant just erase everything... TRY CODING ALL THAT!!!!! then what? we just change the name, the story, and the voices, and the ids's... NO F***IN WAY! MS and DA would be after us like white on rice... it is a serious issue.... we could (in theory) get MS and DA to heed to our pleas, but that would cost 500,000 just as a 'down payment'... <---not necessarily, just for the interest [or the idea and creation of the project---... THEN they would want us to fork over serious $$$ to pay programmers, get the kinks worked out, and testing and production... granted, if we all forked over $20 and MS took it, we might be able to get a 'scholarship' if you will... THEN with sales and all... we MIGHT get our $20 back and more... maybe much more...

it can NOT be done independantly...

AND as stated above... DO YOU REALLY WANNA DOWNLOAD 1 TO 2 GIGS JUST TO HAVE A POWER OUTAGE OR A CORRUPTION????

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