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For modders have a "Mod Registry" **Using a new fo

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Post Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:28 am

For modders have a "Mod Registry" **Using a new fo

I think I have a SOLUTION to all woes with credits to mods, MS interference and creative protection etc. If Bargib wants to, or allows another to moderate it, The Lancer's Reactor can host a mod registry on its site, beyond just the downloads.

New and unique works in mods can be registered on this site with credit to the author.

The registry can be either hidden or shown, depending on whether the creator will allow it to be shared. If a new modder takes a shown one, he is to immediately apply a credit statement to his readme. If he doesn't, his mod won't be hosted on TLR.

A registry here. Not the copywrite office, right here. Simple as that.


Sir Spectre

.... Time passes too quickly to be enjoyed and too slowly to be endured.

EDIT: Updated the general idea we've conceived of for a registry into the topic heading.

Edited by - Sir Spectre on 20-10-2003 17:26:17

Post Tue Oct 07, 2003 1:42 pm

I am very much in favor!

Post Tue Oct 07, 2003 2:16 pm

Sounds like a good idea.

Life: No one gets out alive.

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:55 pm

I concur with Sir Spectre's idea, and this is especially pertinent now. Please seriously consider it.

---
"Notice ye a strange man of odd temperment racing through here?"
The Taming of the Psycho
Sir Spectrespeare


Edited by - Imagine on 09-10-2003 22:56:13

Post Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:10 am

Sir Spectre....

I like your idea too.

Questions:

How would the administrative back-end work? I mean, whether it is Bargib or anyone else, it seems like a lot work for the person(s?) maintaining the registry.

If there is a dispute between two modders who, as it turns out, came up with essentially the same mod at practically the same time but with what turn out to be superficial differences, how should that be resolved and who would make the call?

Observation:

There would need to be some rules or "commandments" about how situations would be treated. I'm, at best, a minor hacker so I don't know what those rules ought to be you would need some agreed upon rules that the registry adminstrator(s) can follow and make judgment calls with.

Post Fri Oct 10, 2003 1:44 am

I was wondering when someone would ask those things, Indylancer.


How would the administrative back-end work? I mean, whether it is Bargib or anyone else, it seems like a lot work for the person(s?) maintaining the registry.


I don't know web sites too well, but speaking from an Excel/Access point of view you could set up a structure of categories. Ships, Systems, Equipment etc. then under each category is posted the modder, then the filenames of the changed or added files. Under that subcategory would be the actual changes or additions to text in the FL files, not the whole file, just the changes or additions to the file it refers.

So lets say I add 2 systems within the file structure:

+Systems
_+Sir Spectre
__+Ugly System
___*Freelancer.ini
____*[us01
____*code code code
___+Systems.ini
____*[us01
____*code code code
__+Not-so Ugly System
___+Freelancer.ini
____+[ns01
____+different code code
___+Systems.ini
____*[ns01
____*different code code

It's pretty rough, but if a text search of someone else's system comes up with the same thing (not including the us01 or ns01, just the code) then it would be deemed to be at worst taken or at best someone who thinks alike.


If there is a dispute between two modders who, as it turns out, came up with essentially the same mod at practically the same time but with what turn out to be superficial differences, how should that be resolved and who would make the call?


I would think a moderator would make the call and maybe give it to both of them.

I don't know if this made anything clear, nor do I know if this is the best way to do it.

----------------------------------------------------
My Humourous & True Lancers Reactor Plays with Real Posters as Characters in These Divine Comedies:
The Full & Complete Text of "Much Uba About Nothing"
The Full & Complete Text of "The Taming of the Psycho (Hey)"
& The New Play:
The Full & Complete Text of "Zlothello"


Sir Spectre

.... Time passes too quickly to be enjoyed and too slowly to be endured.

Edited by - Sir Spectre on 10-10-2003 02:50:13

Post Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:20 pm

Sir S:

Is it possible to set it up so that it is self maintained? To take the burden off of moderators or anyone else to make judgment calls?

Sort of set it up so that a Modder can post (but not delete) to the registry. The registry is set up as you describe it so that it simply tracks who got there first and with what so that posted mods display oldest date first. This way, others may post to the registry as many times as they want but if they are posting to a section of the Registry that already has that mod in place, the first post of that mod is what see first and all others string out behind it?

Of course, this means that setting up the registry completely and comprehensively according to some solid rules becomes critical but I tend to think that the registry needs to be "human-proofed" in order to work acceptably for all concerned.

Post Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:28 pm

good idea Sir Spectre

"Make it so Number One"
Captain Picard 'Star Trek the Next Generation'

Post Sat Oct 11, 2003 12:05 am

Indylancer:

Is it possible to set it up so that it is self maintained? To take the burden off of moderators or anyone else to make judgment calls?


There's no such thing as self-maintained when it comes to computers. As for the rest of you post, I don't really know how it should look. I've only done some limited databasing of my own. I have never done any web server development. I just look at this way, if the US government can keep track of copyrights from everything from photos to news stories, then a private server can be held to maintain one type of information with probable greater effieciency.


Sir Spectre

Who was the penguin in trousers with whom she was to have sinned?
-- From the play "Zlothello"

Post Sun Oct 12, 2003 12:39 am

Sir S:

Well too bad then, I guess. It seems to me that it would be too much work
and responsibility for the moderators.

Post Sun Oct 12, 2003 1:15 am

in last case scenario, we can start a registry thread and the users will maintain it.

Post Sun Oct 12, 2003 2:32 am

Yeah, make a new forum. Ships (Stickied), Systems (Stickied) etc.

Moderators would only need to be in on the beginning to make certain the mods already out would be correctly associated with the creator. Then also to weed out stupid posts that have nothing to do with registering a mod. That might be the easiest and most efficient way.


Sir Spectre

Who was the penguin in trousers with whom she was to have sinned?
-- From the play "Zlothello"

Post Sun Oct 12, 2003 4:28 am

Should I start one then?

Post Sun Oct 12, 2003 4:33 am

I think it would work better as a forum unto itself not just a thread, that way all the average spammy lunatics don't go posting all the time.

BTW, Imagine, I know you liked this quote I'm using, did you want to use it. I can easily pick another.


Sir Spectre

Who was the penguin in trousers with whom she was to have sinned?
-- From the play "Zlothello"

Edited by - Sir Spectre on 12-10-2003 05:34:48

Post Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:29 am

no that's ok, there are plenty to go around
This one was pretty bright

Desdenuba: Just screw this light bulb of her life!!

Forced a double take. Were you planning for this line ahead of time?

These are your quotes and I should be asking, anyway.
Can I use this one?

_______
Zlo: There be worse ways to lose a reputation.
Rilmsio: How so?
Zlo: To be caught too well knowing a goat.
"Zlothello"
Sir Spectrespeare



Edited by - Imagine on 12-10-2003 07:39:08

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