I think that its kinda cool. I would remove ques in the airport and would stop credit card theft and stuuf like that. I would be worried about losing privacy, but if you don't do anything bad then you don't have any reason to worry.

BTW: Finalday, when did you become a mod? Damn it, I should never stop going at TLR for long periods of time.

I smile when I don't know whats going on...

wow, imagine setting off the security alarm cause they forgot to scan you at checkout. thatsa story the police would love. hey didnt japan already do that?

I'd rather settle for a chip that I can carry around, that is not planted in

sw, there is a story in a book you read that has something simmilar to this in it and it ain't a good thing.

Fd you talking the books by Tim La haye anf Jerry B Jenkins?
Or some other book?
Something like this could be very useful, but it can also be dangerous and I think there is more danger than luxury

Wow does this ever bring up a lot of issues. The way things are going it would'nt supprise me if before long it would happen. They [whoever THEY are may start doing this to criminals, or known terrists. But just what kind of information will be on that chip.All kinds of things could be on it. If this is in it's infincy stage there is now telling what they will stoop to.........

AZAR

Edited by - Azar on 10/15/2004 10:30:00 AM

KJV, last book, about a mark used to buy or sell. They will incorperate more than just med info in the chip.

lol guys i think this will help, every immigrant to the country of the U.S would have one, itd help keep terrorism low!

Fd oh yea I thought about that, but I thought you were refering to that series. Fd you dont have to worry about the chip in that case do you?

I don't see this as an enhancement to security at all. Counterfeits certainly will be introduced and may found to have been used on innocents. Then what? The more high tech the measure, the more stupid and blind reliance people place on it, the more likely innocents will be harmed.

and there will be no way to stop it

and then "the matrix has you " darn neo u missed smith!

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"but if you don't do anything bad then you don't have any reason to worry"

(Blaze i think you're a top bloke, but that statement is SO wrong.)

Everyone -

if anyone thinks for a second that this is designed to cut down on fraud or prevent terrorism, they're very much mistaken. the purpose of this is to enforce govt tracking and control of citizens for (and take notice of this) - whatever the hell they want

the fact that people are willing to accept this on the basis of "preventing terrorism" shows how well the "let's stop the terror" propaganda worked in the wake of 9/11. In fact such things will do jack-sh*t to stop terrorism, terrorists work in very different ways under the "radar" so to spk. Ever stop to wonder why, if 9/11 was such a big surprise, the supposed terrorists were identified and/or captured almost straight away? why the hell weren't they caught BEFORE ffs? You should be incredibly wary of voluntarily surrendering your freedoms - do you think you're going to get them back?

is something like this going to stop another Timothy Mcveigh building fertiliser bombs in his garage? I don't think so. Is it going to make the slightest difference to an organisation with the resources and dispersion of al-Quaeda? No, of course not. So what the hell is it for then?

Crime prevention? most petty crime is committed by opportunists and people with relatively little to lose, who are alrrady part of a criminal subculture. so it won't make any difference to them. more serious crime is committed in the heat of the moment, which again is largely impossible to guard against, or by long and careful planning by people who would be q capable of resourcing/obtaining get arounds for something like this.

So what the hell is it for then?

to control YOUR lives. to make sure you pay your taxes, pay your traffic fines, don't say or do anything *untoward* don't associate with the wrong people (people like me for instance) etc etc. Just where will the line be drawn? how much freedom are you prepared to lose before you feel safe? do you think it'll stop with this? no - there'll be some new *threat* and we'll have to surrender yet more personal freedom. until we have none left.

Never me, never. I'll be identichipped or carry an ID card over my dead body. this is back-door fascism and it stinks. Our fathers and grandfathers fought a war against thius sort of thing. if we let this go ahead, we're opening the door wide open to the police state that Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia were. it's already been pushed ajar by the incredibly ironically named "Patriot" Act. Orwell was right, this is 1984 come true

thankfully I'll be dead and gone in 30 years or so.

Well Pete its coming and its coming soon