*sigh* im going to regret this i know but i feel like playing to his ego a bit:
@taw: does tawakalnistan have a national anthem?
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Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:23 am
Tawaklnistan does indeed have a national anthem - traditionally played on the national instrument, a old shoe stuffed onto a spent artillery shell-casing. I'm very pleased that you're showing such a keen interest in the culture and history of the Tawakalni people.
here's a clip of it, the real thing goes on for about 45 minutes and must be sung while standing on one foot.
no songs are sung that praise specific individuals except selected heroes of the struggle. We're an truly egalitarian society, here in Tawakalnistan.
the Joya Lirga (religious and community "elders"
are currently debating whether a national anthem is even needed or not, as the aim of all *worthy* Tawakalnis is join with the Umma and establish Kalifah.
Edited by - Radio Free Tawakalnistan on 9/6/2004 1:59:19 AM
here's a clip of it, the real thing goes on for about 45 minutes and must be sung while standing on one foot.
no songs are sung that praise specific individuals except selected heroes of the struggle. We're an truly egalitarian society, here in Tawakalnistan.
the Joya Lirga (religious and community "elders"
are currently debating whether a national anthem is even needed or not, as the aim of all *worthy* Tawakalnis is join with the Umma and establish Kalifah.
Edited by - Radio Free Tawakalnistan on 9/6/2004 1:59:19 AM
Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:43 am
For those who are interested in anthems, check this page out at http://david.national-anthems.net/index.html. I'd link it, but I seldom have sucess with such things. --- VH16
Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:01 pm
For those who want to change the US anthem, here's one even better. Lee Greenwood's version of "Proud to be an American"
If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.
I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.
And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I won't forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
From the lakes of Minnesota,
to the hills of Tennessee.
Across the plains of Texas,
From sea to shining sea.
From Detroit down to Houston,
and New York to L.A.
Well there's pride in every American heart,
and its time we stand and say.
That I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I won't forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
And I’m proud to be and American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I won't forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I’d worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.
I’d thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
‘Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can’t take that away.
And I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I won't forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
From the lakes of Minnesota,
to the hills of Tennessee.
Across the plains of Texas,
From sea to shining sea.
From Detroit down to Houston,
and New York to L.A.
Well there's pride in every American heart,
and its time we stand and say.
That I’m proud to be an American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I won't forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
And I’m proud to be and American,
where at least I know I’m free.
And I won't forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
‘Cause there ain’t no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:23 pm
Irving Berlin's "God Bless America" and "America the Beautiful" by Katherine L. Bates both were up as replacements for the SSB back in the 40s and 50s, I think.
Also up was the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" although this one never had a chance in some parts of the country for obvious reasons.
No one song predominated so that the movement to change from the SSB, while strong and likely to have carried the day, never crystallized as the camps divided between GBA and ATB quite rigidly.
Also, GBA, today, has certain constitutional deficiencies.
Also up was the "Battle Hymn of the Republic" although this one never had a chance in some parts of the country for obvious reasons.
No one song predominated so that the movement to change from the SSB, while strong and likely to have carried the day, never crystallized as the camps divided between GBA and ATB quite rigidly.
Also, GBA, today, has certain constitutional deficiencies.
Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:43 pm
such as?
all i know is,
God Bless America
Land that i love
Stand beside her
and guide her
through the something yiddee dada wahatever, erm that's it.
and then there's something about mountains and prairies, and pounding oceans ( I think)
what's not constituional about that? I don't understand
so what's the one everybody puts their hands over the hearts for? The Star-Spangled Banner?
(I really want to know, I'm terribly ignorant about these aspects of American life)
all i know is,
God Bless America
Land that i love
Stand beside her
and guide her
through the something yiddee dada wahatever, erm that's it.
and then there's something about mountains and prairies, and pounding oceans ( I think)
what's not constituional about that? I don't understand
so what's the one everybody puts their hands over the hearts for? The Star-Spangled Banner?
(I really want to know, I'm terribly ignorant about these aspects of American life)
Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:52 pm
There lately has been a renewed hubbub over the insertion of "God" in official government action.
"God Bless America" would, basically, fail the first test of constitutionality in the name itself, much less the lyrics.
To many in the US, there is a strong desire to reinsert religion, at least the Christian version, as part of the legal environment in which all citizens are to abide.
There is also a libertarian group that believes that, freedom of religion means just that, no imposition of religion by government on anyone, namely atheists but, also, any other belief system in which the notion of a christian version of god is not acceptable.
You of course, being a threocratic despot would have no inkling of such notions of fundamental constitutionality.
Edited by - Indy11 on 9/6/2004 5:53:16 PM
"God Bless America" would, basically, fail the first test of constitutionality in the name itself, much less the lyrics.
To many in the US, there is a strong desire to reinsert religion, at least the Christian version, as part of the legal environment in which all citizens are to abide.
There is also a libertarian group that believes that, freedom of religion means just that, no imposition of religion by government on anyone, namely atheists but, also, any other belief system in which the notion of a christian version of god is not acceptable.
You of course, being a threocratic despot would have no inkling of such notions of fundamental constitutionality.
Edited by - Indy11 on 9/6/2004 5:53:16 PM
Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:07 pm
sounds lime a load of PC hogwash to me. We have God Bless Tawakalnistan, our downtrodden neighbours in England have God Save the Queen/King, lots of your official state documents say "one nation under God" "In God We Trust" or summat like that (ok i know a lot of very important ones don't, but let's leave the masons out of this ) and ostensibly you're still a Chrisian nation and it's a better tune. I don't think "God Bless America" is going to undermine anyone's rights, and the uberpatriots will still be uberpatriots whatever n.a. you have. Seeing as atheists don't beleive in God a priori, then how can they object to the mention of something that isn't there? (according to them)
We had a similar spat a few years ago about the line "send her victorious, happy and glorious" in the Nat. Anth, the PC police claimed it was imperialistic and warmongering, but everyone told them to shut up.
theocratic despotism is just fine and dandy thank you, you infidel dog
) and ostensibly you're still a Chrisian nation and it's a better tune. I don't think "God Bless America" is going to undermine anyone's rights, and the uberpatriots will still be uberpatriots whatever n.a. you have. Seeing as atheists don't beleive in God a priori, then how can they object to the mention of something that isn't there? (according to them)
We had a similar spat a few years ago about the line "send her victorious, happy and glorious" in the Nat. Anth, the PC police claimed it was imperialistic and warmongering, but everyone told them to shut up.
theocratic despotism is just fine and dandy thank you, you infidel dog