I hate political correctness. It just causes people to bottle up the anger and then release it by going postal. And to be so uptight about "mailman" is just b*tchy, for lack of a better word. And to all you women out there who take offense to that I'm sorry, I just have trouble trusting something that bleeds for four days and doesn't die. --- RR16

IT'S A JOKE!!! Please don't hate me

Whoever came up with "Mission Commision" should be lined up and shot

I'm a bit confused. "Political correctness" is meant to neutralize sexism and racism etc, right? so, in the case of gromit's story, didn't the bouncers acted politically IN-correct? he was being sexist and prejudiced towards men, and thus NOT politically correct. Then how is it the case of "pc carried out too far"? if anything, it is the other way around...

Please educate the Admiral!

@FF absolutely, you've hit the nail on the head without even realising it When they ploughed into us, it wasn't because they hated men (ie. sexism), it was because their pea-sized brains only registered "must not hit a woman....must not hit a woman....terminate....terminate"...they were being overly politically correct. It wouldn't have even crossed their minds that they were being sexist....and their actions themselves would be "un-pc". Its kinda like neandrathal (sp?) irony.

Edited by - gromit on 14-12-2003 11:24:07

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@FF absolutely, you've hit the nail on the head without even realising it When they ploughed into us, it wasn't because they hated men (ie. sexism), it was because their pea-sized brains only registered "must not hit a woman....must not hit a woman....terminate....terminate"...they were being overly politically correct. It wouldn't have even crossed their minds that they were being sexist....and their actions themselves would be "un-pc".

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Uh, sorry, I still don't get it. When I claimed that they were being politically incorrect, I didn't mean that they were incorrect because they were over pc-ing it, but because they were doing totally the opposite of it.

Let me explain it in a scale:

Sexist/racist/other -ists ------------- Neutral (Ideal level of PC) ------------- Overtly politically correct

As you can see on the scale, the bouncers acted rather sexist and prejudiced towards men, and therefore placed their act on the "left" side of the bar, while you are claiming that the bouncers acted "overtly pc" placing their act on the "right" side of the bar.

From what I gather, pc means ignoring the privileges and discriminations suffered by the minorities (in this case, women). "Must not hit women" and "Opening door for women" are considered sexist under pc-rules, because it suggests that women are weak and unable to defend themselves, and therefore have special privileges and protections.

You see where I'm going here?

-Someone who is sexist would OPEN door for women and WOULD NOT hit women
-Someone who is PC would NOT open door for women and WOULD HIT women (if given good reason to, of course )

And please note that the statement above is not necessarily my pov, I'm just trying to define more clearly what is considered pc and what is not.

FF said,

-Someone who is sexist would OPEN door for women and WOULD NOT hit women
-Someone who is PC would NOT open door for women and WOULD HIT women (if given good reason to, of course

a. is correct
b. is partially not correct. violence is very non-pc. but your point is clear enough. Gromit's bouncers were anything but pc, that example was bullish sexism in extremis.

FF - The whole purpose of PC was, theoretically, to promote equality , or to be more accurate, a system in which there is no distinction between groups. That is to say a system in which males, females, individuals and groups are indisinguishable in terms of their place in society. This is because PC SEEMS to have evolved from women's rights (my opinion), but this vision has been altered substantially. Now, PC has evolved into a weapon to be used against anything or anyone who attempts to maintain the status quo; at least in terms of gender segregation, etc. Its purpose is to attempt to provide euphemisms that are designed to avoid offending any gender, individual, or minority group. PC is common now because many people are determined to either;
a) Spend their lives attempting to avoid offending people or,
b) Take offence at anything and everything
Due to these two types of people, words such as "mainboard" are now prevalent. In terms of the above two types of people, type "B" are defined as "PC Thugs", and can be blamed for the ridiculous situation that we find ourselves in.

Well of course, that is just my analysis. I studied many things at University, however PC and women's rights were not included. Except for that one History subject run by that feminist lecturer...

Esquilax

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The above post is true, and by true I mean "false". It's comprised of lies, but they are entertaining lies and in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is "no".

@FF/Taw you're right, I didn't think it through properly, my apologies. It was sexism and not an example of being overtly PC. I think I know where I was coming from, but you are definitely right....