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Post Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:30 pm

the OutLaw Star

"Roger MasterChief out".....("Keyes is such a pain in the ass" ) "

Post Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:41 pm

Hey Darklord,

I've been trying to see if anyone was interested in me doing a Diligent freighter from WC1. It's pretty big. So far no real interest it appears.

Post Tue Jun 17, 2003 9:57 pm

I've seen a few requests for original ship designs, so I figured I'd offer up one my own. This ship has some history behind it. I originally created back in grade school. I'm aware of it's similarity to the Starviper in Battlestar Galactica, but it actually predates the TV show by a year or so (yes, thank you, I know I'm old.) I called the ship "the Comet."

The bottom picture shows the original version. Kind of boxy, but hey, I was a kid. The nice thing about it's sharp angles is that it ought to cut down on the number of polygons if anyone were to want to model it. Let me point out some of it's features:
1. That thing sticking out a little bit under the nose, which appears as a circle in front view, is a heavy cannon. I think the best way to represent it in Freelancer is to use a Kusari Gunboat Large Gun.
2. The landing gear is retractable (only the nose skid is shown.) Given the lack of landing gear in Freelancer, I'd just remove it from the model. For the sake of trivia, the rear landing gear is actually a set of small, retractable tracks housed in the thruster pods at the end of each side wing.
3. Each of the pods on the end of the wings houses a small laser cannon in front, and provides thrust out the rear. I always imagined the thrust looking similar to what the Bretonian or Liberty Rogue ships have. Kind of a "propane torch look." The laser cannons aren't meant to be very powerful. They're used for strafing lightly armored targets when the main cannon is too much.
4. The canopy is supposed to be shaded.
5. The idea of the radiator on the belly of the craft was taken from the P51 Mustang of WW2.
6. This ship is a dedicated fighter. If you look at the size of the pilot, you get an idea of it's scale. It's probably close to the Drake in size. There's little room for cargo. The pilot straddles the main cannon, and everything behind him is engine. The thrust runs through tubes in the wings before being directed out through the pods at the end of each wing. It's capable of atmospheric flight.
7. As boring as it sounds, yes, the back is that flat.

The updated version was more "aerodynamic." A big reason was just to get rid of that flat back end. Here's a run down describing where it differs from the original:
1. The bubble cockpit provides the pilot with a better view. What's not well shown in the picture is that cockpit is actually wider than the fuselage behind it. The back windows actually angle back inward towards the fuseleage.
2. It's more maneuverable, owing to it's shorter length and wide wings.
3. All of it's guns are more powerful.

I'd suggest giving both ships about the same amount of armor, perhaps around 2000. Shield strength might be a 4 or 5. I never planned for them to have mines, missiles, or torpedoes, but it did have chaff (counter measure dropper.) If you can, none of the guns should move physically, as they're supposed to be housed inside the ship, except for the muzzle. Even so, I'd let them shoot at angles they're not pointing at. The game's physics require it. The main gun should shoot straight ahead, with a very limited arc of fire.

The colors are pretty accurate as depicted, but what you see is a much cleaner ship than I ever imagined. The back end of the thrust pods should be covered in soot, as well as the front of the nose, owing to the main gun. The decals shown are completely optional and open to whim. I used the side to display combat medals and enemies killed. You can create your own colorful decals, or leave it all blank. Same goes for the pilot name (shown for example purposes.)

Post Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:31 pm

Anyone remember the movie The Last Starfighter? I think the gunstar would make a great vhf! It even has the freelancer swivelly guns!

Post Wed Jun 18, 2003 7:12 pm

Here's another of my original creations (tried to make the pic a bit smaller this time. ) I never named this one, unlike the comet above. This craft is meant to be a VTOL. What you can't see from the front/side view is that the center portion between the tail wings and behind the cockpit houses a powerful turbo fan. The shape of the wings help create lift under the craft to push it straight up; and it can launch itself into the air, a good 200 feet. This craft is capable of atmospheric flight.

It's only meant to have two guns, one at the end of each wing. They should be fairly powerful, but rapid fire.

I'm not going to go into detail about how the engine is supposed to work. Suffice to say, it's not a the jet engine it appears. There are two thrusters in the rear; inline with the intakes you see in the front view. The best exhaust flame for the thrusters is probably the one with the white rings that the Bounty Hunters use.

I would classify this ship as a heavy fighter given it's size. It's meant to be very maneuverable and scrappy. One of it's best tricks is to use the VTOL engine in dogfights for sudden direction changes.

Oh yeah, this picture is mostly unpainted. Typically it would be black and white, with identifying markings on the tail wings and body. I think the "veritech fighters" of Robotech were a big influence in this design.



Edited by - Ether Dragon on 18-06-2003 20:18:23

Post Thu Jun 19, 2003 9:44 am

How about the ships from EVE online? Frigates for Light fighters, Cruisers for Heavy fighters, Battleships for...well, battleships, and Industrial ships for freighters?

If you wanna know about the ships, go to this URL:

http://www.eve-online.com/shipdatabase/

The oath of the British Army: Do you swear to be brave soldiers, to never turn your back on the enemy, always speak well of a lady and respect the chastity of a woman? You do? Have we got NOTHING in common?[![![!

Post Fri Jun 20, 2003 8:28 am

Two words.

Space Balls.

I want to fly a RV around in space. And maybe a giant cleaning lady with a vacuum.

Also, some fat, bald guy on a motorcycle would be nice.

Post Fri Jun 20, 2003 5:22 pm

Hey does somebody know where i can get a ship from cowboy bebop, i mean maybe Spikes (th protagonists) fighter or the big ship... the bebop, pleasssseeeee tell me where to get it, I'm desperate...

Post Fri Jun 20, 2003 6:11 pm

I would love to see Spike's Ship from Cowboy Bebop. Also I've always wanted to see Faye Valintine's ship too. They would RULE! Can anyone make any of the ships from the COLONY WARS Games for PlayStation? I ALWAYS loved thoss GAMES! The ships in all of them are SWEET!

Post Fri Jun 20, 2003 9:26 pm

Oh, I forgot this ship, but you are right. This one with some more externals. Got a link to a site, where all the WC ships are listed with pictures.

What about the nice ships of www.Deepangel.com. There are absolutely nice models.

Greetings

Apo

Post Sat Jun 21, 2003 9:42 pm

lol..I've just seen a mod request for some WWII planes to fly;(..how silly. So on that note..I'd like a Yellow Submarine please

Post Mon Jun 23, 2003 12:15 am

More ships for this forum....these are the money ships!!!

Pegasus - Freespace 2

Boanerges - Freespace 2

Ares - Freespace

Mara - Freespace 2...I think I saw it done somewhere, but just incase

Triton - Freespace 2...Freighter...maybe we could shrink it down though..

Hapshepsut - Freespace 2 Battleship...maybe add to encounters....one badass flight

Selket - Freespace 2

Banshee - Freespace 2

Artemis - Freespace 2

Golgotha - Freespace 2...Battleship Prototype...Random Encounters again???

Vanir - Freespace 2

Apollo - Freespace 1

Ulysses - Freespace 1/2

Valkyrie - Freespace 1

Athena - Freespace 1

Ursa - Freespace 1/2

Also, if anyone thinks that they can design some guns and have played Freespace or Descent email me

Pyro - Descent 3

Magnum - Descent 3

Phoenix - Descent 3

Black Pyro - Descent 3

Mirage - Starlancer

Reaper - Starlancer

Shroud - Starlancer

Tempest - Starlancer

Coyote - Starlancer

Grendal - Starlancer

Batplane - If I need to tell you where this is from...Rarrr!!!!Hulk mad!!!Hulk crush all!!!

Tivar II - Megazone 23

Dezalg Probe - Megazone 23

Pluto - Megazone 23

Comanche - Real Life

Prowler - L Gaim

Lista - L Gaim

Amazon - Dragonar

Idaho - Dragonar

Mindanao - Dragonar

Defenser - Gundam

Shackles - Gundam

Irish - Gundam

Pegasus III - Gundam

Graon - Dunbine

Grimley - Dunbine

Gunan - Dunbine

Guran Galan - Dunbine

Namwan - Dunbine

Zerana - Dunbine

Bubuly - Dunbine

Bull Beggar - Dunbine

Galava - Dunbine

Gea Gring - Dunbine...This one is HUUUUUUUGE!!!

Spriggan - Dunbine

Tungy - Dunbine

Will Wipps - Dunbine

Zuron - Dunbine

YF-19 - Macross

VF-19 Excalibur - Macross

VF-4 Lightning - Macross

VF-1 Valkyrie - Macross...Just reviving the topic...still haven't seen it

Spectre - Bang!Gunship Elite....I played it for the first time last night...just bought it for a buck!!!

I think this now makes me the biggest nerd...move over reynen!!!!j/k

Post Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:33 am

I would like to see the Dragon, Bearcat and Excalibur from Wing Commander 4.

Post Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:09 pm

How about the Alien Ship from C&C Tiberian Sun?
Since the only view of it is after it crashed that would leave a lot of free room for any designers. Besides, even crashed it looked cool....

StarWars Answers:go ahead

Post Thu Jun 26, 2003 1:21 am

How about the ships from Space Rangers. Remember that show? It was on in the mid 1990s or so.

The Jolly Rogers

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