that's what this is. Community protection. All I need from you is who wants to help and some names for the group. I've been waiting for that since I opened this topic!

"Sure, as long as I don't get shot at, held at gunpoint, skewered by giant alien shapeshifters, have to jump out windows, fight off unfriendly nomad incubii"

No I ment a community coded protection Util/mod. Which would be 24/7 not relying on Someone being there.

EG: the cloak author made a mod to remove the advantage, now if we made it Kick when someone used a cloxk, that is what I'm after. But to cover more of the mods that have been made with no thought as to there Abuse.

Still pisses the hell out of me that the speed mods are With the mod managers by default. So the community fubared FL online, so up to us to fix it.

So to all you programmers, step up and take the challenge and make a FL punkbuster

Edited by - Pinger on 22-06-2003 17:48:54

what's wrong with mod manager including speed mods? last time i checked the mods didn't hack any game code and override server side speed settings. if you're so mad about it complain to DA.

DA tried to fix it, anyone not having a default speed exploded, but that was buggy and they had to pull it from the patch.

I only want name suggestions here. I haven't had one this whole topic. I want name suggestions and ppl who'd like to join. Sure, the idea of an anti-cheat program is good, but what do we do in the mean time? I say, we kill them and keep killing them until they stop cheating. It'll help reduce the number of cheats altogether as if they do cheat, they know they'll be hunted from the word "go". We don't go looking for cheats, admins ask us to teach a cheat a lesson or verify the use of invulnerability hacks.

"Sure, as long as I don't get shot at, held at gunpoint, skewered by giant alien shapeshifters, have to jump out windows, fight off unfriendly nomad incubii"

Ya Know! apart from your pretty dumb suggestion of useing a cloak cheat to hunt down cheats, your over all idea of having a group of server police trying to deter cheats along with admin help is a noble one, how workable it would be is another matter.
I say good luck as for a name you could try [PB Punk Busters.
But dont resort to cheating, to acheive ANY aim in a MP game, it will just add fuel to the Fire.

I run Newcastle server, and it has this neat kick function you can use to police your server of cheats (you discover them, you kick them!). I would be very unhappy to have vigiantes putting their own law down on my universe by cheating. All cheaters, when discovered get banned. Plus, all players are vetted via the password option. And IP firewall. And MAC add. firewall.

You don't have to cheat to get rid of cheaters, you just have to play it smart.

I would support any vigilantes that don't cheat. after all, it's Freelancer, what you do is up to you. As long as you don't cheat.

-=>ZiMBU<=-

Cheating is cheating AFAIC, no matter what your motives are - if you're using cheats on a server which bans them you stand to get banned.

It's widely acknowledged that cheats/mods have a detrimental effect on server performance and stability. By using cheats against cheats you're just making the problem worse and are as bad as they are!

And what's the point? If they're using mods it's just as likely that they are invulnerable, using cloaks, modded weapons etc and if they die so what? They can respawn again or just hit F1 and leave, either returning as a new character or waiting until you've gone. Hell, some people would probably cheat *just* to get you guys hunting them for kicks.

I'm NOT against players policing servers but what we don't need is a bunch of vigilanties. If you want to hunt down suspected cheats and check them out to see if they're running mods that's great, but the best way to deal with them is to provide the admin with enough evidence to kick/ban them.

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>bRydeR<

Edited by - bRydeR on 23-06-2003 15:08:14

Punk Busters is a neat name, thanx. Now whoever's complaining about us using cheats should re-read this topic thourughly. I have said that I'd remove the device. I also said that we're not looking for the cheats, although if we find one, we won't hesitate to shoot first and ask questions later and I after someone mentined the invulnerable ship hack, I answered that too. In those circumstnces, we verify that the cheat is in fact invulnerable. Sure, they can revert to normal for cash hacks, but people would notice a sharp drop from lvl 38 to about level 12 and then we come in. After we've taught them the lesson, the admin has the choice of banning or deleting the player.

"Sure, as long as I don't get shot at, held at gunpoint, skewered by giant alien shapeshifters, have to jump out windows, fight off unfriendly nomad incubii"

the main prtoblem on ac2 is the admin seems to have overdosed on cardamine and is either
unconsious
on vacation
or dead,if anyone can get ahold of [email protected] please do so before all that is left on ac2 is cheaters.

Then now is our time to act! While the admin's away, Punk Buster's shall play! (I like that one! It just came off the top of my mind) I've decided to call us the Punk Busters, so my policing name sill be [PBWakan_Tanka. Who else wants to help? I need people on this one! There's strength in nubers, so let's work together on this!

"Sure, as long as I don't get shot at, held at gunpoint, skewered by giant alien shapeshifters, have to jump out windows, fight off unfriendly nomad incubii"

Um okay... do what you have to do, and I'll do what I have to. My server runs sweetly and without aggro. Then again, it's invite only, and Co-op orientated.

-=>ZiMBU<=-

It's not a case of what I have to do, it's a case of what we may have to do. I'm looking for people to help out. Not just helping me, but helping sys ops who need it. Post here if you want to join.

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if u can kill cheaters by not hacking modding or cheating ,then by all means go for it,but if u do mod hack or cheat ,just dont,yer no better then the cheating scum we are trying to get rid of,CAN U UNDERSTAND THAT