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Post Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:49 pm

why do i not whine about dock camping? because no one can dock camp me. because there is a trick i have already posted a thread about. If you can't figure it out don't complain. Crunch deserved what ever he got and i can see most people responding to this thread did not take the time to even read half the posts here and are making an assumption crunch is completely innocent.

Post Tue Jun 17, 2003 10:41 pm

All those voices are in your head mang.

Heretic

"He would make a lovely corpse." - Charles Dickens (1812-1870)

Post Wed Jun 18, 2003 10:58 pm

I've seen voice on the server once..If im not mistaken they wanted me to pay em to enter a system...which is lame...i didnt pay em anyways. Was idle threats.

Post Tue Jun 24, 2003 6:02 pm

PvP is a vibrant and enjoyable part of the game. However, an exploit is not only a description for a cheat, it is also a description for an abuse of the rules-set of a game.

A case in point: In the old Quake Team Fortress (if anyone remembers it) you could essentially stall an entire team to a standstill by joining their side, and building an automatic turret (sentry gun) in the doorway of their spawn room. The players were then unable to exit their spawn room to join the fight outside, and were forced to attempt suicide until they appeared in another room. You weren't using a hack, or a cheat, or a mod. You were simply abusing a flaw in the system. This is no different than cheating, and on most, if not all servers, was a bannable offence.

By the same token, I don't believe that there is any justification for dock camping. If the player deserves to get killed, then give them 5 seconds to escape the dock, and then kill them. It amounts to the same thing, but they then have a fighting chance, which for play balance, is absolutely essential. If you are a hack moderator (defacto) then you really should be enforcing clean play, not participating in grudge abuses of the system.

Shooting a player before they have a chance to fight back is essentially as aprehensible as cheating. It is an exploit of the rules system.

Post Sun Aug 31, 2003 5:39 pm

I'd go out using a sunslayer and ripper mine and maybe even rockets to go on a suicide mission to kill damn dock campers...it does work and their reactions are so fun when all 2/3 dockcampers die due to the fact that they "missed" the incoming sunslayer,cannonballs and ripper mine :p

Post Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:23 pm

Tasiin Wrote:

Whiners. I can't believe some of you people, you act like dock camping is the end of the world.


And what the **** geve you the power to ruin other's gameply to boost yours? Goddamn e-thugger.

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Post Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:29 am

Damn people, this thread shoulda died with AC2. I ask the admins to lock it cause 10 to 1 it's gonna turn into a neo bashin thread.

Voice of Confusion
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Post Wed Sep 03, 2003 9:57 am

I ask them to keep this forum going...

I also ask that people do not turn this into a NEO - bashing thread. To be fair, NEO is not the only clan to commit "e-thuggery".

The kick I get out of the game derives from teamwork. The clan I developed revolves around the idea of not flying VHF's. The result is we like to take our ships to places like Omicron Alpha and tackling the biggest missions we can get; 230 k missions heaps of Bounty Hunters vs 2-5 Daggers is a lot of fun.

I also derive a kind of pleasure from PK - usually in the form of the Duel, occaisionally in the form of a Hunt. I have had quite a few memorable duels in my Dagger versus worthy opponents in Droms, other Daggers and other kinds of ships. But the Dagger doesn't cut it vs some of the other ships in the FL universe, for example the Drake and the Eagle.

We have yet to dock-camp anybody - it's simply abhorrent. It also doesn't class as PK. I liked the analogy to sucker-punching a toddler more.

There are a lot of ships available to fly in the FL universe - and it is up to individual tastes as to what people fly. Simply stating that someone is stupid for not flying one of the big 4 ships - Drake, Eagle, Sabre or Titan - is just very close-minded. It removes the option of free choice.Destroying ships in a lower class category is simply very weak paying. Doing so repeatedly is just cowardly.

In the real world, people die once. One would expect you to be left alone after being killed once. Sure it's a PK sever - someone died - so they should cease to exist in the victors' target scope. You know you got hit, or you know you scored a hit. PK done. Why sit outside and wait?

People take this game too far sometimes. To those that heard of the death-threat-in-personal-e-mail incident (which I will not expand upon here) you know what I mean.

The other night I was dock-camped on Malta. I did not bother to launch after the first occurence. What would be the point? My gaming time is limited - I have a full-time job that eats up a lot of my time, as well as a real life. I simply do not have the time to spare sitting in a dock, waiting for some e-thug to exit the system. It ruins my game (I don't get to play it). Yet the dock-camper described me as "boring".

I dunno - here I am, alone, in a Dagger in Alpha, with Bountys hounding me in every system I go through (not to mention all of the police and all corporations in the FL universe taking a pot-shot), and flying missions. There he is, sitting in the most common ship (and I mean common) outside a dock, probably with a totally neutral reputation, doing nothing except waiting for someone to approoach, dock, and then attempt to exit again. Who's boring?

I am against dock-camping. I am for PK, whether it be an un-announced strike in open ground, in defence of an allied AI faction, or in the form of a friendly duel. I am against repeatedly targetting the same person. Even my enemies know this.

I do not think it will change anything, however. I think that if dock-camping is permitted, it will destroy the game. People just have better things to do than be the victim of another persons' self-serving ego powertrip.

Slake.
Clan Leader.
The Fringe Raiders.

Post Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:46 pm


People take this game too far sometimes. To those that heard of the death-threat-in-personal-e-mail incident (which I will not expand upon here) you know what I mean.

Yes, I did hear about that death-threat-in-personal-e-mail incident, I actually have visited their forum and read the email myself just now, and that death-threat was ment in the Freelancer and NOT in real life. But you are making it look like that person made a death-threat in real life.

Get a grip

Post Wed Sep 03, 2003 2:08 pm

Man what a load of flap over nothing

Time is too short to hate everybody , just hate a few

Post Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:52 am

Perhaps people/groups wouldn't be bashed so much if they didn't all but openly proclaim their love for using cheap tactics scorned by the community.

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