My, my what a surprise!

Looks like you won't get your wish, Taw. It seems that the clandestine relationships between Starbuck and Apollo and Roslyn and Adama are alive and well, perhaps a little too well. I was hoping to have an end put to all this intrigue in this episode but now I'm just totally confused... and... so are the characters.

bah, it's at least another 1/2 day before I get to watch it!

edit - omfg! I really feel for Dualla, poor girl; not so bothered about Anders, even though he's a decent guy, because Starbuck is obv trouble for any man. So Lee married D on the rebound from Starbuck What a mixed up bunch of people! What's going to become of D's marriage to Lee now? Having said that, she dumped Billy to go with Lee (which indirectly led to Billy's death) so in a sense, what goes around, comes around. I'd have thought that by now Lee would have had enough of Starbuck messing with his emotions, and settle for what he's got.

I can't cope with all this emotion stuff, let's get back into space fracking toasters!



Edited by - Tawakalna on 12/2/2006 7:02:01 AM

Adamas got a nasty right hook.

I'm all with you on this one Taw... I figured that Starbuck and Apollo were done for, but when the last episode ended with their fight ending with a tearful hug and mutual "I missed you"s (how cliche...), I don't think its ending any time soon. Maybe D and Anders are going to hook up next! Its like musical chairs... on a battlestar... yeah.

Maybe if they had duked it out long before this, they'd have figured it out.
Oh well....that's drama. I wonder what's next.

Apollo tells D next week that he's really been in love with Starbuck all this time and that he's going to leave her, but she tells him that she's pregnant!

it's not as far-fetched as it sounds; in the (not very good) episode "Black Market" we learnt that Lee left his fiancée on New Caprica who was going to have his baby, then she got killed in the Cylon attack. So it would be ironic that Lee is again in a similar situation, but this time he has nowhere to run away to.

Anders is certainly still in the series for at least the foreseeable future, next week's episode apparently leads up in a few weeks to a confrontation with the Cylons on another planet where Lee and Anders have to fight their way out. Now that'll be interesting, seeing as they're both in love with the same woman. Or maybe Sam will get together with D, who knows?

it's a testament to the actors' skill at their craft that we actually believe in these characters, that Starbuck is so unlikeable, and that D's heartbroken expression at the end was so moving.

What I want to know about that last episode is this... the directors have taken great care to cut off every square edge on every door, panel, piece of paper, etc, except for the boxing ring! Shouldn't that have been an octagon as well?

what a good point! I didn't notice that.

you know why all the corners are shaved off? it's an in-joke by the cast and crew, referring to the budget restrictions on sets and props, meaning they always had to "cut corners" so they decided to literally do so, and it worked out as a great idea to give that "sci-fi feel."

Ep 10, "the Passage"

I was in tears at the end of this one! they really turned on the emotion tweakers this time round. On reflection, it was all a little obvious, but hugely enjoyable nonetheless. I've never been a big fan of Kat's character, although she did really come into her own during the exile from New Caprica, and I'm going to miss her. I didn't think i could dislike Starbuck anymore than i already do, but there she is, still needling Kat about the stims nearly 2 years later, taking the moral highground over kat's deception (Starbuck of all people, esp considering she was directly responsible for Zak's death by passing him fit to fly, Jo-Jo and BB's deaths because she was drunk and unable to turn up on duty, secret tribunals and murdering people, and cheating in her husband and busting up Apollo and Dualla - we think - as well all the other stunts she's pulled in her time.) Then as an act of contrition she turns up on poor brave Kat's deathbed with a bunch of pills and says, here ya go, kill yourself, aren't i good to you?" - what a mean vicious b*tch.

Anyway, Kat went out a hero, which was nice. Quite how all that Cylon stuff fitted in wasn't sure, I'm getting very concerned about the editing in BSG, the shifts are too quick and don't always follow any apparent logic. Balthar did mention about being a traitor to one race and a hero to another, which sort of mirrors Kat's dilemma re: Starbuck's accusations towards her, but it's a bit tenuous.

The whole Xenabot thing is really weirding me out; just what exactly is she trying to see when she kills herself over and over? The Balthar comes along, shoves his mitt into the Hybrid's schlurm and gets a revelation quick as you like, thereby proving what the Leoben model has been saying all along, that the Hybrids are passing on knowledge, not nonsense (rather like the Oracles of the Colonials in a way, don't you think?)

So the scene is set up for a confrontation at the Eye of Jupiter, whatever that is, presumably the planet the Fleet has reached. Thing is, Jupiter is the Roman form of Zeus, and so far we've only ever had the Greek forms of the gods' names, such as Hera (Zeus' wife,) Artemis, Aphrodite, etc. And the Eye of Jupiter specifically refers to the Great Red Spot in our own culture.

Great sfx though, all the ship's are looking really battered and worn (as they should) and Galactica is visibly falling to bits. They're really missing Pegasus' repair and manufacturing facilities. Also nice to see Col Tigh back in CiC being as miserable as ever, but not drunk anymore.

The whole cylon bits fit in like this.

The hybrid tells baltar the nonsensical truths, he translates them, he ends up haveing them search for a planet in a globular cluster. see the connection to the colonials here?

well I did actually figure that out, Shroud, because that's what we saw; what I was bemoaning was what i felt to be rather heavy-handed editing, shifting from Kat to Balthar back to Kat back to Balthar, with no attempt to link the sequences other than by a blanket theme of finding this planet, and a somewhat crudely handled comparison of their relative destinies.

This was apparently Jane Espenson's first outing as head honcho on a BSG episode (she's on old mate of RDM's from his DS9 days iirc) so it was a good start, if a little rough around the edges. Having said that, this is very much a "lead-up" episode like Colonial Day was in S1, so I'm looking forward to some really meaty stuff to come in the next few episodes.

Unfortunately, I missed the first ten minutes of this episode, so I'd appreciate a bit more background on the famine that suddenly struck.

I don't have much to say about this episode, other than it all happened far too quickly. This fellow shows up from Kat's past (perhaps I missed something earlier) out of nowhere and brings up this terrible image, she has a self crisis, then sacrifices herself to save a ship. I know I'm condensing things a bit, but there was little in the way of enthusiasm from me for this episode for anything other than the special effects resulting from the radiation.

What's with Gaeda having to turn a key to jump Galactica? Shouldn't they just... push a button?

apparently there was some sort of radiation leak or plague or something that spoilt most ofthe supplies - it wasn't explained terribly well, just a plot device. I agree that everything happened far too quickly with minimal explanations, which i did intimate earlier.

that's the first time we've seen the jump-key since the Mini-series, and the pods retracted too! At last! (you haven't seen the Mini-series yet, JD, iirc, so you won't know what I'm on about)

I did indeed see the all important pod retraction! (Funny how it goes so fast now... back in the beginning the retraction was agonizingly slow and Starbuck and Apollo made their way back to the ship).

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