Anyone else heard the new Daft Punk album? its pretty smart but nothing we havent heard before. Robot Rock is awesome but the rest is just window dressing. I think i'll stick with Discovery.

-arc

Iced Earth kick ass, Dream Theatre kicks ass and The Verve mostly kicks ass.

The rest are mostly rubbish.

___Corsair~MMIV
Reasons I'm better than you: #78468- I have squiggly lines in my name.

I personaly Love Dimmu Borgir. They are brilliant, and there songs and deep thick with amazing incorperation of alot of well played intsturments.

The Haunted is good fun but isnt the same level Dimmu is.

The Gratful dead can only be enjoyed in a concert or so i am told, becuase there CD's sound like rubbish to me.

Corsair, I have gained a huge amount of respect for you

Iced Earth does kick ass...especially I died for you, angels holocaust, Dracula, prophecy, Wolf...ehh, its all good actually.
Iron Maiden is an amazing band...Can I play with Madness? ...Aces High, Run to the Hills, Killers, etc.
Rush--Subdivisions, Xanadu, Bastille Day (perhaps the bloodiest song on the face of the planet, if possible even more so than the Marseilles), Dreamline, Red Sector A, Distant Early Warning, Earthshine,...they've actually never written a bad song, in my opinion.
Nirvana's a great band, too bad they only lasted four years before Courtney Love killed off the guitarist.
weird German bands --Kraftwerk (electronica), Rammstein (heavy metal), and Kaizer's Orchestra (too weird to fit into any genre).
Dimmu and the Haunted are pretty good bands, just really creepy...
And of course, Pink Floyd, the Experience, the Guess Who, David Bowie, and all the other greats of classic rock.

Kraftwerk isn't weird! And they're Electro not "electronica". There's no such thing as "electronica" and, if there were, it would be mostly Big Beat, Chemical Breaks, Anthem House and Trance, and Drum 'n Bass/Jump-up Jungle.

Edit: I like Breaks. Acid and Chemical breaks are amongst my favourites (The Crystal Method are probably most responsible for my love affair with EDM) and I've been getting into Pretentious (Progressive) Breaks more now - though I still don't know exactly what qualies as part of that sub-genre. I'll also freely admit to liking some "Nu Skool" and Florida Breaks as well. Oh, and Funky Breaks.

Psytrance is cool, but generally hard as hell to listen to. Unless I'm actually at a party I can only take about half-an-hour - absolute maximum - of the stuff before my head explodes and my face slides onto the floor. Yeah. It's like that.

Edited by - Codename on 3/20/2005 11:42:45 AM

wow, this thread became less a discussion, more "I LIKE THESE PEOPLE, WHO DO YOU LIKE??", so im off

-arc

Er, how's this...

I can't understand why so many people still are living in the past. Music had come a long way since Rush, Pink Floyd and their ilk. Yet people still gush over them as though they're some sort of musical gods. Okay, fine, they made some interesting music and it laid the groundwork for what we have now. But there's better, more interesting stuff out there. Stop being so damned lazy and find some NEW FREAKING MUSIC!

Is that better?

Alot better. I agree with Codename; find new stuff!

I found alot myself, but I won't go into that...

*hugs code*
wow man, im with you on that. im really annoyed with those folk who act that just because music now is different to music then and that bands then pretty much paved the way for the artists we have now, if you're not fans of that music, you're not a real fan at all. As if i cant apreciate modern music if i dont have all the pink floyd albums or something.

-arc

That dont mean ya cant enjoy the old stuff, also im not going to listen to anything just ebcuase its new.

But generaly its not too great if you listen to something just becuase its old. listen to what you like and let be.

Code--wow. People in Winnipeg say "Electro". Heehee

The reason that people are still listening to them, drooling over them, is because a) they're good bands , b)ninety percent of modern music is **** *** ******
Seriously. It's like someone murdered the music industry in the mid-nineties, and no one's resurrected it since. Rap in the 80s wasn't bad per se, aesthetically pleasing to some and not to others, but now modern rappers are plaguing the music industry with their disgusting rubbish that is only a shadow of the rap industry's former glory, while inundating the public with celebrity lies and disgusting sexism, 50 Cent for an example. "Pop" music is garbage, refuse, and rubbish constructed out of a computer (with minimal human talent involved--saving of course that of the technicians who actually made the record) in order to sell one thing to a teenage audience: sex, not music. The punk rock industry is of course booming, which is depressing; it mixes talents of actual punk bands, the Clash for example, splices their genes with those of classic and progressive rock artists, e.g. the Guess Who, sticks them together in a musical travesty, attempts to add a political message, and calls it a day.

Grunge stopped being good after Kurt Cobain got shot in the head...Metal, actually, is the only still-thriving genre, with most bands being at least listenable on a bare level, and many far beyond that...Iced Earth, Into Eternity, Nightwish, Iron Maiden, Rammstein.

There, did that give all of you enough fodder for arguments?

Edited by - Wilde on 3/20/2005 2:08:50 PM

Let Stewie from family guy take over

"We dotn go nowere with out toast? Fifty Cent cut the crap if you wanna make it in this biz you gotta lay of the crack!"

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The reason that people are still listening to them, drooling over them, is because a) they're good bands , b)ninety percent of modern music is **** *** ******
Seriously. It's like someone murdered the music industry in the mid-nineties, and no one's resurrected it since. Rap in the 80s wasn't bad per se, aesthetically pleasing to some and not to others, but now modern rappers are plaguing the music industry with their disgusting rubbish that is only a shadow of the rap industry's former glory, while inundating the public with celebrity lies and disgusting sexism, 50 Cent for an example. "Pop" music is garbage, refuse, and rubbish constructed out of a computer (with minimal human talent involved--saving of course that of the technicians who actually made the record) in order to sell one thing to a teenage audience: sex, not music. The punk rock industry is of course booming, which is depressing; it mixes talents of actual punk bands, the Clash for example, splices their genes with those of classic and progressive rock artists, e.g. the Guess Who, sticks them together in a musical travesty, attempts to add a political message, and calls it a day.

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Wow. It took you all that to say "Screw you guys, I'm not going to look beyond pop-crap for examples of current music." What you say is all very good but to assert that rap music is now a "shadow of the rap industry's former glory" is simply to demonstrate your own ignorance. And even some pop-rap is good. K-Os comes to mind as a prime example. Swollen Members and various other Battleaxe Records artists have their moments of genius as well. There is a lot of great music still being made, the public just doesn't get to hear it enough. And that's a real shame.

The reason that Rock is dying is that it's now a busted genre. The envelope has been pushed as far as it will go. Any further and the resulting music isn't rock anymore, it's probably some form of electronic music (or maybe symphonic). Metal is fast approaching this stage as well. There are only so many combinations of notes possible with one or two guitars, a bass and drums.

Edited by - Codename on 3/20/2005 2:48:37 PM

Hence why I'm fading into Psychedelic Trance, Minimal Psy (Psytekk) and Goa. Lots of room for improvment.

But an interesting note to Codename and Arcon:
The reason why I'm nuts over pink floyd, hendrix, and a lot of eighties trance/EDM is because the wicked stuff put out then was about 300x more creative and deep than the majority of **** produced today.

There are some exceptions however, certain artists who had some originality, and part of my favourites list.

Nine Inch Nails - If Trent Reznor moves in a certain direction, we may have a new Pink Floyd on our hands.

Rage Against the Machine - I am yet to hear a band that replicates Zack de la Rocha's furious attacks on the corporate society, an donly Audioslave comes close in the riff department... mainly cos Audioslave IS what is left of RATM after Zack left.

Scissor Sisters - Very few people are having fun anymore. These guys do, and sound funky doing so.

Machine Gun Fellatio - Probably some of the world's most mediochre musicians, these guys really put on a great show, something that is lacking in music today.

Beck - I shhouldn't have to explain this one.

Fatboy Slim - No one samples vocals quite like the Fatboy. Well... like the Fatboy used to. The Joker was a good cover though...

Infected Mushroom - Psy Trance. These guys are f*ing pioneers, using burp samples for benji's sake.