@Griffon 26
no i mean only Frontier Games, ok!?
Elite is not Frontier, it could be Frontier if the Imperial and the Federation were mentioned in some point, but thyre not so that puts Elite non-Frontier
and FFE isnt "frontier elite 2-first encounters"
it has its own offical name

@Love Shark
look i am going to tell you exactly what is space-sim and what is FPS

Space-Sim means Space-Simulators
space sims may be in diffrent modes,most of them are not in FP (First Person) and esspecialy not in FPS (First Person ----////Shooter\\\\----)
but there are space-sims where you just blow space-ships (FP-TP)
and there are space-sims where you can just do wheter you want(FP-TP), like Freelancer, X2 or even FFE, except the fact that you can blow up pirates.

FPS means First Person Shooter
that means games either you just have to kill everything that moves (Doom Series etc...)
or either games where you have a special target that you must kill (Hitman Series etc...)
or either not even FPS but TPS (Thired Person Shooter) where you see your character from the back (Splinter Cell Series, Freedom Fighters etc...)
and much more, that isnt SPACE-SIMS!!!!, you must be mistaken, Space-sims are the kind of games that give you the choise insted of giving you orders and finishing the game and then you have the big sign of "GAME OVER"!

well i hope you learned something...

WRONG

Wing Commander
Freespace
Descent
Tie Fighter
X-Wing

fl you are a RETARD

fl2003, Frontier is part of the Elite series...Hence FRONTIER: ELITE 2 its the sequel to elite. FFE is the third sequel to elite. They are seperate games, but set in the same universe. They are all Elite games. I guess you have the original box and manuals the games came with? No you probably just downloaded them...do you even go to their website????? Anyway wtf do you care I already explained what I meant

@Haltek
Yes i am a retard
you have problems with that!!??

@Griffon 26
Yes thats right FFE and Frontier are Elite
but Elite isnt Frontier, i mean normal game

And yes i do enter other FFE websites
i allredy have been in most of them,
I even have my own Elite and Frontier Collections of fan stuff (i even found a site with a download link to E:TNK)
but most of my time i waste on FFE insted of Websites

And wrong Elite is just a very small part of the whole Frontier Universe
i mean Elite only has 1000 or 2000 systems if i am not wrong
but Frontier allredy has 100 Billion systems including those in Elite and with real astronomy and planets.

Edited by - freelancer2003 on 10/10/2004 6:23:13 AM

fl, what the hell are you arguing for? you're both saying the same damn thing. Its like saying Freelancer is in the Starlancer series, and starlancer is in the Freelancer series. They are both in the same series so who cares what name you call them.

because it's the ONLY thing he knows anything about, Arch. therefore he's boring us to death with the vast amount of knowledge he's got about a very teeny-tiny subject.

I tried Postal 2, and I think it fits into both categories:
An excellent idea (playing a serial killer, using cats as silencers, throwing rotten bull heads and scissors at people, being able to urinate on your visctims before slicing their head off with a shovel - what a fun!)
Bad realization: numerous long-taking loads (why in the heck do I have to wait every time I pass a tunnel, when, say, MoH or any other FPS doesn't have any loading every time you enter a new part of the environment?!), and unrealistic adversaries - geez, a cop takes four (!) bullets into her forehead before dropping dead.
In sum, if not for those rahter significant flaws, I'd enjoy the game immensely.

Life is only given once ... and most often by accident

Edited by - zlo on 10/10/2004 8:01:27 AM

@Arcon
Do you know anything about Elite or Frontier!!??
thay are totally diffrent!, not some shootem up series! that only ranges in possibiltys!

@Twa
Thats right,
i am booring you to death, do you have any problems with me booring you to death!?

@Zlo
yeah i know postal 2
its fun but too satanistic, and it gets more and more booring in each second

quite honestly fl2003 it's causing chaos on the forums because it's virtually every post you make and every thread you start is about the same subject. Yes it's getting really boring. is there nothing else you can discuss?

@Twa

hmmmm.....
let me thing....

Nope =-D

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its fun but too satanistic, and it gets more and more booring in each second

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Sounds like your top subject .

I have played Elite and frontier, they may not be the same game, like i think i said with STARLANCER AND FREELANCER, though the same universe and the same series. GET OVER IT!