The US Govt is run by Freemasons (true)
Winson Churchill knew of the planned Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour but didn't tell the Americans because he wanted the US in the war (prob true)
Last years power failures across the world were the result of terrorist action esp hacking (def true!)
The US deep space programme is a fake. The money is used to finance highly advanced military technology - the UFOs of popular myth (true)
The Vatican is run by the Mafia (true)
JFK and Bobby were murdered by the FBI because Hoover was a crook (true)
Dr David Kelly was murdered by MI6 (true)
Margaret Thatcher deliberatley engineered the Falklands War (50/50
Margaret Thatcher deliberatley engineered mass unemployment (true)
The British Govt deliberatley allows illegal immigrants to settle in Britain to provide a pool of cheap unregulated labour for unscrupulous businesses (true)
the AIDS virus was created in a biological warfare lab (could be?)
the metal strip in banknotes is monitored by the authorities who can track every genuine note (prob NOT)
My phone is bugged (true)

Whoa, careful on the politics (AND religion, Taw!).

I don't think AIDS is a weapon - you want something that kills quickly, instead of something that lingers for decades and possibly spill outside the intended target area.

And I'm no expert on electromagnetism, but Arania, if you got your info from "The Core", I won't get too excited

PS: Taw, did you just order anchovy topping for your pizza over the phone? yech .

Glad you added that last one Taw, i was beginning to worry about your list of trues!!!



Okay - the HITLER one is that:

REALITY : Allies stormed the city, took control. They found hitlers bunker, and were told by hitlers guards etc that he had commited suicide. They had already burned his body, and showed the allies his charred boots. There was nothing else - seriously, nothing else at all.

CONSPIRACY ; Hitler had a normal persons dead body burned and left. He then escaped in one of the tunnels from his secret lair, or was taken from it, to then live out the rest of his life in Sweeden (or something to this effect). Lets face it, the ONLY evidence that he was dead was a pair of boots, an pile of ash, and a couple of Nazi guards telling you he was dead.

Do you REALLY think someone with the ego of Hitler would kill himself? Personally i think he ran, or was captured. There is no evidence to support his death as far as i have read/seen in cuttings/net (then again, hardly reliable!), and would YOU believe a group of Nazi guards loyal to their leader that he had "died and been burnt asap before the allies arrived" just cause he didn't want his body desicreated? While it IS possible, personally, for me, I woulda scarperd.

Like i said, it IS possible that he really did die and have his body burnt, but when something is THAT loose on evidence........well - by modern standards he would have been a missing persons at best !


*edit* @ FF -nice to see ya back

Edited by - Chips on 7/18/2004 3:26:01 AM

where's my garlic bread and giant bottle of coke? and i ordered thin-crust not deep pan.

a TRUE conspiracy is that I bug the office/workshop i work in, with dictaphones and tiny wireless transmittters, so that I know what's being said about me when I'm not there. it's come in useful and saved my skin on several occasions, as has my covert scouring of work "colleagues" computers for compromising material. I also have concealed CCTV cameras around the outside of my house, which have occasionally recorded entertaining material.

Edited by - Tawakalna on 7/18/2004 3:40:35 AM

hmmmm.... When I read Killa's conspiracy theories:

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We never landed on the moon, it was filmed in Area 51 in the Nevada desert.

The United States goverment is in alliance with an advanced alien race whos technology surpasses ours by almost a million years.

And the Earth is hollow. There is no solid metal core, it was mined out by aliens and they have a research facility in the core of the Earth.

The Human race and all life on Earth came from Mars. Supposadly, there was at one time bacteria living on mars. Then a giant meteor the size of Pluito collided with it. It sent a small rock containing some bacteria to Earth. In time the bacteria spread all over the Earth and evolved.

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I am getting the idea that thopse that thought em up, probably watched too many sci-fi shows.

Taw is probably dead on with the David Kelly and Maggie Thatcher ones, I wouldn't know for sure, and couldn't care less if he was killed by evil Leprechauns employed by the Irish Prime Minister. (no offense to anyone Irish)

The AIDS Virus is however not, IIRC the AIDS string is an evolution of Simmeon Immunodeficiency Virus, as is quite common among Virusses, the chances of it being biologically engineered are very slim, as it existed before Humans even roamed the earth. AIDS is one of the final and most inevitable stages of the HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus) and acts when the immune sustem is very much destroyed, the AIDS string just destroys whats left of it.

as for a few of my own Conspiracy theories:

the Last Dutch general elections were a Double Cross.

The Dutch Prime minister has embezzled huge ammounts of money from state funds, just to enforce a policy of Budget cuts.

Edited by - Locutus on 7/18/2004 3:42:10 AM

@ Chips

I'm sure i read in the paper or on the news that the russians had discovered a human skull that they believed was Hitlers. It was probably a load of rubbush tho as it only appeared once..

On the Aids thing, i read somewere that says that there is a possibility that it was created by the US Govt to control the worlds popualtion. Unfortuantely it got out of control and as it was created to keep the population down they didn't research a cure.

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On the Aids thing, i read somewere that says that there is a possibility that it was created by the US Govt to control the worlds popualtion. Unfortuantely it got out of control and as it was created to keep the population down they didn't research a cure.

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hmmmmm... possibly, how would you develop a cure (a immunosubstance) against a Virus that is programmed to destroy the whole immune system?? and the US Govt trying to control the worlds population?? sorry but anyone who thought that up was under serious medication.
fact is, even if the "US Govt" was wanting to control the worlds population, they wouldn't succed. fact is that the worlds population is on an ascending curve. if that were the case, you might as well consider putting the blame for every accident over the span of this globe in to the US Govt. Bull**** if you ask me.
of all the rediculous conspiracy theories that I've heard in this thread, this one is definately a 9 out of 10.

<Edit>: Being a little bit Paranoid is one thing, but this is getting near Paranoid delusional

Edited by - Locutus on 7/18/2004 4:03:58 AM

ok then, if AIDS didn't come from a germ warfare lab, what's the alternative? Soemone had it off with a monkey in Africa?

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Whoa, careful on the politics (AND religion, Taw!).

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Last time I checked the thread was entitled "Conspiracy Theories". It's bound to have extreme politics & religion bashing tendencies... If you guys let it roll this long, you should ease up the locking criteria, right?

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ok then, if AIDS didn't come from a germ warfare lab, what's the alternative? Soemone had it off with a monkey in Africa?

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Yup. A green monkey. That's *their* explanation.
I personally agree, HIV was engeneered, but it was partially accidental. It was supposedly created some 50 years ago, right? Well, maybe *they* wanted to create something else, but got this instead, and didn't know how it works... So *they* (whoever that is) tested it out on various species and saw that the reaction to it was drastically diferent. Then an order came, "test it on people"...
The rest is history. Those monkeys are the carrier, but they were made that way by people... Why would a virus mutate in a way to funcion perfectly inside a human body and form inside a monkey...? Think about it. Things like that just don't happen.


Careful what you wish... You just might get it.

Or AIDS is a virus that only excist in the deep jungle of Africa, in monkeys who is not affected by it, a native was bitten and from there it spread. It could be true, but I'd give it a 50/50 with the enigineerd by the Americans

@Taw just remember, taps can be tapped as well

aren't we always being told that AIDS is spread by direct transmission of bodily fluids, usually sex? therefore someone in Africa must've sh*gged a monkey at some point IF that naturally-occuring claptrap is to be believed. Now I know its torrid and uninhibited in the jungle, but boffing monkeys, then going home and boffing to the Mrs after you've been getting it on with a gibbon? I don't think so. US Germ warfare lab.

Taw its also transmitted via blood, so it could be that someone killed a monkey while he had some kind of injury, or killed the monkey while it bit him and it was transferred that way
As for the topic on sex with animals, I regulary get junkmail which topics that declare that you can see that inside so that theory cant really be shot down. I mean they have this theory that AIDS caan be cured by having sex with a baby or young girl, one of the triped could haverituals with monkeys, nothing is impossible

Here is a theory buster. A woman at CDC in the US was spit on by a monkey an got the desires it had and ultimately died from it. Aids can be spread by sex, blood transfusion that was not screened, drug use with shared needles, and I believe, by some other casual contact, IE kissing. It is absorbed through mucus membranes.

Edited by - Finalday on 7/18/2004 8:31:48 AM

Fd, cant be transferred via kissing, we did a bit bout AIDS in biology when I still had it 3 years ago, in order to get aids from spittle(cus thats what you get when kissing) you have to get at least 8 litres of spit, it would take on very long kiss to transfer that much spittle

Edited by - Sycho_warrior on 7/18/2004 8:38:02 AM