OK guys. I get your point. But I would have thought that your attentions spans were somewhat less limited than that.
You haven't blunted my enthusiasm. Nyaaah nyaaah.
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Spirit On Mars
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Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:47 am
I'd be fairly tight lipped about NASA if I were a Brit, considering that your guys sent up a lander that so far hasn't sent a signal back to earth and let's face it, probably wont.
I personally think it's fairly cool, there's nothing regulation about sending any kind of mission to Mars. Hitting a 4 km point of entry on moving target from approx 60 milliom km away, then surviving entry into the atmosphere, then slowing the craft down from mach 2, surving the 3 G jarring as the lander bounces across the surface and finally hoping that after all that the systems work. I personally think it's a bit of an achievement, granted Mars isn't exactly a thrilling place but you can't blame NASA for that.
I personally think it's fairly cool, there's nothing regulation about sending any kind of mission to Mars. Hitting a 4 km point of entry on moving target from approx 60 milliom km away, then surviving entry into the atmosphere, then slowing the craft down from mach 2, surving the 3 G jarring as the lander bounces across the surface and finally hoping that after all that the systems work. I personally think it's a bit of an achievement, granted Mars isn't exactly a thrilling place but you can't blame NASA for that.
Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:52 am
yeh but our Lander was a supermarket trolley with a home video camera and a cats whisker radio attached to it. No-one actually expected it to work, it was an achievement getting there. Anyway it only cost £27-50 in parts from Maplin.
Cmon it was British, none of our stuff ever works
Cmon it was British, none of our stuff ever works
Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:21 am
@Indy:
Anyhoo. Lets not get into the "Our country has a better space program than yours" because lets face it, NONE of our contries has rung me up to be the first man on Mars. Not even the ruskies who i had secretly backed from the start. None of our countries have decided to do anything radical and new. How about building a space ship...IN SPACE? no need for booster rockets to get out of an atmosphere, no need for landing gear, re-entry tiles, just big bastard engines, living quarters, a bridge and a holodeck....maybe. I dont know, i just think we could do better.
"Something wicked this way comes"
What are you? 3 Years old? you can do better than that shirley?
Ha. Ha. That's so funny I forgot to laugh!
Anyhoo. Lets not get into the "Our country has a better space program than yours" because lets face it, NONE of our contries has rung me up to be the first man on Mars. Not even the ruskies who i had secretly backed from the start. None of our countries have decided to do anything radical and new. How about building a space ship...IN SPACE? no need for booster rockets to get out of an atmosphere, no need for landing gear, re-entry tiles, just big bastard engines, living quarters, a bridge and a holodeck....maybe. I dont know, i just think we could do better.
"Something wicked this way comes"
Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:38 am
@Archie.
I felt that my infantile riposte was in appropriate measure to the post....
I have not claimed that NASA was better than the rest. The Sinister Sultan...er, Mustang interjected with that note. Not me.
I thought we went over this before, really. I am not happy with the progress in the space program to date but I fully appreciate that to get to where YOU want to be, missions like Spirit's to Mars are necessary. Problem with these things is that you DO have to plod on methodically. Just because we've lost quite a bit of time doesn't mean that we can take a blind leap to the next level.
Opinion's such as Taw's about the waste of resource has impeded NASA ever since the completion of the Apollo missions. It didn't help that the first fatalities in the program happened in the midst of those missions. Funding
since then has been a political balancing act, etc. etc., stuff I've already said.
When Viking landed on Mars, I dreamt that men would be next and certainly before the true Millennium. Arthur C. Clarke had me convinced that it would happen and I still believe it can.... were it not for the petty politicking that goes on today. Of course, when Viking landed on Mars, I would never have thought that things like 9/11 could have happened either.
We humans are the victims of our own humanness. We achieve quite a lot but we are also the reason why don't achieve as much either. There used to be a satirical cartoon strip here called "POGO." The message in it has remained the most appropriate explanation of the stupidity I see happening: "We have met the enemy and he is us."
I felt that my infantile riposte was in appropriate measure to the post....
I have not claimed that NASA was better than the rest. The Sinister Sultan...er, Mustang interjected with that note. Not me.
I thought we went over this before, really. I am not happy with the progress in the space program to date but I fully appreciate that to get to where YOU want to be, missions like Spirit's to Mars are necessary. Problem with these things is that you DO have to plod on methodically. Just because we've lost quite a bit of time doesn't mean that we can take a blind leap to the next level.
Opinion's such as Taw's about the waste of resource has impeded NASA ever since the completion of the Apollo missions. It didn't help that the first fatalities in the program happened in the midst of those missions. Funding
since then has been a political balancing act, etc. etc., stuff I've already said.
When Viking landed on Mars, I dreamt that men would be next and certainly before the true Millennium. Arthur C. Clarke had me convinced that it would happen and I still believe it can.... were it not for the petty politicking that goes on today. Of course, when Viking landed on Mars, I would never have thought that things like 9/11 could have happened either.
We humans are the victims of our own humanness. We achieve quite a lot but we are also the reason why don't achieve as much either. There used to be a satirical cartoon strip here called "POGO." The message in it has remained the most appropriate explanation of the stupidity I see happening: "We have met the enemy and he is us."
Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:40 am
sounds like you're describing some sort of Space Ark-on.. (that's a pathetic pun, isn't it?)
and where would you go, exactly? Are you just going to wander the universe forever looking for a suitable planet, presuming there are some? Like the Lexx does? or have you got somewhere in mind? consider that of all the stars with planets found so far, the planets are all cr*ppy gas giants that are no use for anything. Just because we have 1 habitable planet in our solar system doesn't mean there are lots more, they might be very rare, or possibly non-existent (but probably not) remember that Earth is as far as we know unique, it's just the right size, the right distance, has enough radiation to produce mutations but not so much that it's harmful, it's very active geo-thermally and of course it has a giant satellite (the Moon) without which it's doubtful life could have evolved at all. What's the chances of finding somewhere like that?
even if you find one, how you gonna live there? what about alien diseases for a start? We evolved to live here, i don't think we'll do to well in the long-term anywhere else, so maybe we should fix this planet up seeing as it's the only one we've got.
Just a thought.
Edited by - Tawakalna on 1/7/2004 6:54:22 AM
and where would you go, exactly? Are you just going to wander the universe forever looking for a suitable planet, presuming there are some? Like the Lexx does? or have you got somewhere in mind? consider that of all the stars with planets found so far, the planets are all cr*ppy gas giants that are no use for anything. Just because we have 1 habitable planet in our solar system doesn't mean there are lots more, they might be very rare, or possibly non-existent (but probably not) remember that Earth is as far as we know unique, it's just the right size, the right distance, has enough radiation to produce mutations but not so much that it's harmful, it's very active geo-thermally and of course it has a giant satellite (the Moon) without which it's doubtful life could have evolved at all. What's the chances of finding somewhere like that?
even if you find one, how you gonna live there? what about alien diseases for a start? We evolved to live here, i don't think we'll do to well in the long-term anywhere else, so maybe we should fix this planet up seeing as it's the only one we've got.
Just a thought.
Edited by - Tawakalna on 1/7/2004 6:54:22 AM
Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:20 pm
ff, that's a very amusing urban legend, but it's false. Read here
Quote:
Quote:
When the astronauts began to fly, like the Russians, they used pencils, but the leads sometimes broke and became a hazard by floating in the [capsule's atmosphere where there was no gravity. They could float into an eye or nose or cause a short in an electrical device. In addition, both the lead and the wood of the pencil could burn rapidly in the pure oxygen atmosphere.
Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:19 pm
@Taw
Catherine Zeta-Jones? That wasn't a Bond film, that was Entrapment. The weather machine? Sean Connery was the baddie and Fienees and Thurman were the Avengers, a remake of the old series from your buggering country. 
That was a good film, I'm surprised he didn't bang the housewife and left the female agent dead in the bathtub.
To bring this back on topic. Men never stop playing with toys, it's just that their toys become more and more expensive. I mean seriously, "who wants his turn to drive the remote controlled car on Mars?" "I do, I do!" "Alright, give O'Brien the control pad and let's order out for some pizza."
Sir S
on the subject of strange Bond films, i saw Bond in one where he had his face in Catherine Zeta-Jones' @ss, not that there's anything wrong with that per se, and then another where he wore a kilt and took over some weather control machine and the baddies were Rafe Fiennes and Uma Thurman? wtf was that all about?
Catherine Zeta-Jones? That wasn't a Bond film, that was Entrapment. The weather machine? Sean Connery was the baddie and Fienees and Thurman were the Avengers, a remake of the old series from your buggering country.
true story - i let my boy, who's 9 and loves Bond, watch the 4th Protocol the other night, and he was totally confused, cos its a spy thriller with Perce Brosnan in and he's cheering everytime PB kills someone then at the end he says "but Bond got shot - whats going on? how will he be in the next film?"
That was a good film, I'm surprised he didn't bang the housewife and left the female agent dead in the bathtub.
To bring this back on topic. Men never stop playing with toys, it's just that their toys become more and more expensive. I mean seriously, "who wants his turn to drive the remote controlled car on Mars?" "I do, I do!" "Alright, give O'Brien the control pad and let's order out for some pizza."
Sir S
Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:20 am
does she Must? can't say I'd noticed!
silly sS that's the point! Scene Canary is so associated with Bond that it provides entertainment to describe every post-Bond film he's done as a Bond film. Arch got it straight away! Unfortunately a lot of these films are so bad the only quality item in them is Bond err Sean C. although i could watch C-Z-Js @ss for hours, she really is a fantastic looking bird. 'Tis a pity she's a total cow AND married to that old perv.
seen that Bond film where he has to break into Alcatraz with Captain Corelli of all people and stop Blofeld from blowing up San Francisco? And Blofelds an American offcer? what's that all about then?
silly sS that's the point! Scene Canary is so associated with Bond that it provides entertainment to describe every post-Bond film he's done as a Bond film. Arch got it straight away! Unfortunately a lot of these films are so bad the only quality item in them is Bond err Sean C. although i could watch C-Z-Js @ss for hours, she really is a fantastic looking bird. 'Tis a pity she's a total cow AND married to that old perv.
seen that Bond film where he has to break into Alcatraz with Captain Corelli of all people and stop Blofeld from blowing up San Francisco? And Blofelds an American offcer? what's that all about then?