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Freelancer verdict!!!

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Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:25 pm

Freelancer verdict!!!

I am a new member here as of the 05/03/2003

Just let me start by saying first. Iike most people here I went and bought STARLANCER way back when the game first hit the shops for sale a couple of years ago, and I thought then it was the Bee's Knee's of Space Games, and spent many happy hours playing the game to it's Final completion. Which coming for me was a very good rating seeing as I've owned and played most of the other space games like Elite, Final Frontier, Privateer 2, X Beyond The Frontier, X-Tension, Wing Commander Series, and the rest. (Showing my age there a bit).

I have waited years for this new FREELANCER game to come out! And Iike most people I was expecting great things from the game, Mainly on the lastability front! Because Starlancer was very short lived in this department. Only it's Multiplayer abilitys helped in keeping it alive and kicking after a few weeks of play.

I was very disapointed to here in the Mouse only control system being used in Freelancer! But to now find out that that the main view in the game is the Outside Perspective view. Was a big NO, NO for me! Ok you can switch views to inside the ship. But this is simply no good when fighting because of the Mouse control. Hence the obvious reason why they have made the Outside Perspective the default view in the game.

When you concider that most of the best Space Games all used the Joystick, and Cockpit view! I ask myself what was Microsoft thinking when they changed these features.

For me Microsoft should have stuck with the default STARLANCER Joystick Control and Cockpit view by default. Because it worked very well. They should have built on this to make the game much more lastable in terms of the Single Player option.

Having played "X-Tension" by Egosoft, and now waiting for there new "X2 THE THREAT" game to come out soon! I must say that FREELANCER is going to be blown away by there new release! And it doesn't even stand up to there current "X-TENSION" game out now. Yes the graphics are very pretty, and the game runs very fast! But that's not the most important thing!

It seems to me like Microsoft have tried to take a lot of the features from these games by Egosoft, and tried tom introduce them into there new FREELANCER game in the hope of making it a game to play for ages. But this has simply just not worked out! And when you take a look at the many features of "X-Tention" and compare them to Freelancer it is left wanting in it's wake! So you can image what X2 THE THREAT is going to do to this game with much improved graphics, gameplay, missions and more!

My final verdict is! If you are not interested in the MultiPlayer aspect of this game. Do yourself a favour and buy STARLANCER because it's a better game!

Edited due to the use of caps in the topic.

Edited by - Stinger on 05-03-2003 17:34:31

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:38 pm

I ownder why I even post here. But i feel a need to do so.
Advertise X2 somewhere else.

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:41 pm

Well ,that's it, we should all just scrap the entire "Freelancer is a good game" idea because some other game is going to be better, Gary said so.

Go back to the "other game" forums where you're enthusiasm will be more welcomed please. Won't see any of us on there bashing that game because we don't need to, nor even feel the need.

(has anyone ever notice that? Those other gaming forums don't get people posting on their forums says their game sux and Freelancer is better? Is it because we have more class and look forward to all games being successful maybe?)

Make you wonder doesn't it? I like the "high road, it's certainly better paved.

Edited by - Stinger on 05-03-2003 17:41:02

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:50 pm

Woah! Are you THE Gary Bolton? I celebrate your entire catalog!!! Oh wait...that's MICHAEL Bolton.

Anyway, I agree with Wizard and Stinger.

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:50 pm

Thank you for you time and dedication in putting down some obviously original thoughts. Perhaps if you took the time to read the forum, you would see that many other people actually enjoy the game, and MANY MANY people have already discussed the same issues you do.

Your need to espouse the virtues of another game that doesn't even have a playable version yet is evidently a sign of impeccable judgement.

Hope you enjoy X2

Hope you do not feel the need to burden us with your complaints again.

Obviously your opinion is the most important one though, so we should all immediately sit up, pay attention and nod our heads sagely at your advice.
I mean you are such an authority.


"If this is what you want to do, you'll do it, no matter how long it takes..........and usually the longer it takes the more fun you've had!"

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:54 pm

It continues to amaze me how people will come to some game's forums, post a rant about how horrible it is and how this game is better than that game, and then not expect to be flamed. Go figure.

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:55 pm

Actually, the original Wing Commanders ran better using the keyboard arrows then a crappy joystick. This was true for every WC up to Heart of the Tiger (this includes Privateer, Academy, and Armada). Even WC IV was great using the keyboard. I am glad Microsoft is using a mouse for FL because, frankly, I don't like joysticks. I only use joysticks if I'm in an arcade or on my old Atari. =)

SumerNivek
Killer of Khaja the Fang
Privateer Extrodanaire

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:00 pm

Damn, I guess you're right. X2 is far superior, despite the fact that nobody has even played the damn thing yet. But who cares, objectivity is for reasonable people.

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:02 pm

What forum isn't complete with some one posting, "This game sux! But there's a better game coming out..."

Now we've all heard that. I've never played any of the "X" games, so I can't give a good opinion about it. I have seen your type of ranting before. Some examples: Operation Flashpoint was supposed to be so awesome. Great idea but it had more bugs that a mass grave. Let us not forget WWII Online. I think that's sitting in the bargain bins now. I also remember how Icewind Dale II was supposed to be far better than Neverwinter Nights. IMOHO, IWD II sucks because it lacks the ability for customer worlds.

The mouse problem is minor. Takes some time getting used too but I actually prefer it for this type of game. As for the third person view, that's minor. I think that most people would turn off the cockpits for an unobstructed view. Plus, this game is very stable and the game play is smooth. (At least on my rig) I'd improve some minor things but this game is still worth the $50.00.

If you want a game that has serious problems, go down and hit the bargain bin for a nice little title called, Battlecruiser Millenium.

"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance..."

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:02 pm

Hey stinger u seem to know everything about everything

wot do i do in FL after 10 hours multiplayer i have all the best stuff and a few mil in the bank?

shoot some more run cargo ..... YAWN

Wars not about whos right its about whos left

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:05 pm

please present us with an F8 screenhot...then I'll believe you pikey. Until then, you'll get little sympathy nor will your repuation on this web site be elevated to some lofty perch.

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:05 pm

Ah Pikey, won't you ever just go home?

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:16 pm

Well to be honest I was expecting this sort of responce from my posting here. Buts that's cool!

Please don't treat me as though I have just come here to slag the new Freelancer game off! Try to remember that I own both the Starlancer and Freelancer games here. And I'm not just some sort of fool coming here who has no knowlage of the games. I probably owned Starlancer before most of the people here in this forum! Seeing as I bought the game as soon as it hit the shops. When it was basicly an unknown game! Also I'm not defending them "Brain Dead" fools over at the Egosoft forum either.

Because I own all the Microsoft Series and the Egosoft Series of the games. Is why I'm comparing the two games against each other. And yes I know the new "X2 " game is not released yet. But it's a well kown fact that there new game is going to blown the previous "X-Tension" game out of the water. With a bigger Universe, More Missions, More Ships, Ability to now own Capital Ships, Better Graphics, New Weapons, AI Players in the game now to make it an ever changing Universe, Unlimited game play, Better Trading, Downloadable Scripts and much more! This is why I say "X2" is going to be a great game. And let's not forget it will be Joystick controled, and have the Cockpit default view.

I know different people have there own views on what they expected from the new Freelancer game. I'm just trying to be honest with my thoughts about the game. I've been waiting long enough for it's release to give me this right!!!

After all, this is what a forum is all about. We are not all here to just agree that the game is great.

Sadly I was very dissapointed indeed in the game!

Edited by - Gary Bolton on 05-03-2003 18:51:52

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:16 pm

X wasn't a bad game, and I don't expect X2 to be bad either. But, X2 will have to be pretty darn good to "blow FL away".

Let's get those missiles ready to destroy the universe!!

Post Wed Mar 05, 2003 6:16 pm

LOL im not saying all bad things here
gfx are ok control ok etc

but plz tell me (i havent bought the game)
when i do if i do reach lvl 38 with loads of money wot do i do
ive seen many posts here saying to achieve lvl 38 wont take long
as it is with the demo im running cargo from buffalo to manhatten and watching the tv whilst i do it

Wars not about whos right its about whos left

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