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Post Sat Apr 12, 2003 8:51 am

ack! <any "old-timers" know what ACK means?) forgot one pertinent point:

it isn't a "pissing contest" like someone suggested.
I think an important point was also touched on by Nicodemus, saying that he "felt like he was getting too old to play his games"

it's a TRIBE: we are the knowing Elders who had to walk through the snow at 300baud, getting disconnected both ways, and squint at amber and green monochrome monitors at screens of dots broken by the occasional ASCII text... in OUR day, we didn't HAVE gerbils to power our 386s; we had to STEAL RATS! And they were a lot meaner and harder to train.

ah, ok. 'Nuff said, as my man Stan Lee says.

I think it's way cool that you young gamers see that you needn't fear losing your beloved games to creeping old age. Don't you know older guys that spend hours modding their cars? Like you need a blower and a Hemi to drive to work every day. Shya. They are pinheads; ignore them.

and it's also cool that older gamers like me can come out proudly and say, yeah! I waste as much time on games as you do on Fantasy Baseball! to their work compatriots. And everyone knows 'gamers are way cooler than FB playergorks ^-~

be welcome in the Tribe, young Jedi. Keep your nose clean and your wrists limber; listen to your Elders, argue with them where necessary but don't forget continuity; and lastly, remember to pee every few hours and that you should eat something once in awhile. Cheetos are good.

and, Elders: do not sneer at the young bucks, who do not know the deprivations of having had to make games out of stones and logs and stuff. For when the aliens come, we will need their sharp eyes and quick reflexes to carry out our brilliant strategies.

Now, where's that roast pig?

Post Sat Apr 12, 2003 9:51 am

<quote>i am a feared Mechwarrior on any version of that game from the original to Mercenary <new>... specializing in ultralight scouts and assasination <nothing like taking out a fully-loaded Atlas with the precise ERs of my nimble Uller for full salvage</quote>

The original Mercenary? I still have installed the 'Original' BattleTech: The Crescent Hawks Inception (the first MechWarrior computer title), and MechWarrior I (the first MechWarrior BattleMech sim, where you worked for the IS), both pre-date MechWarrior II - Mercenaries, I even have some of the original BattleTech pen n paper playing cards which pre-date all the computer based MechWarrior titles... You MechWarrior n00b

Hengist.


Edited by - Hengist on 12-04-2003 11:17:41

Post Sat Apr 12, 2003 10:22 am

God Damn...i must be really old! (34)
I started out with an Intelevision...never heard of it have you!
Commodore 64
Amiga 500
Citrix 200
Celeron 500
Celeron 900
& i haven't stopped playing or looked back....
(note to self: got to get a life!) lol

Post Sun Apr 13, 2003 7:18 am

I'm 33 and I've been playing computer games since the early eighties.

I've finished playing Freelancer and it's the coolest game I've played so far. So cool in fact I'm playing it again.

Post Sun Apr 13, 2003 9:18 am

nonono
"FROM the original TO"

was referring not to MW2:Mercenaries but to MW4.5 Mercenaries.

i also have 1-4.5 loaded still, including GB and a bunch of custom
mech mods <"The Penetrator"> and maps in a lot of the versions. Also somewhere is a dusty paper box full of BT stuff.

far as i know, the pc series was MW1, MW2, MW2:Mercs, GB, MW3, MW4, MW4.1 and MW4.5. The only thing i don't have is the Clan and IS mechpaks. For some reason, i still like MW2:Mercs, esp with the graphics patch. I prefer the "Great Balls O' Fire" look of those ppcs, and when ya finally get your hands on some Clan lasers, you EARNED 'em!

were the pods running CHI? i wasn't really knowledgeable then, just played it a couple times, but MW1 didn't seem like the pod game in structure.

on bnet? name/handle/clan/ladder rating?

Post Sun Apr 13, 2003 2:12 pm

<quote>were the pods running CHI? i wasn't really knowledgeable then, just played it a couple times, but MW1 didn't seem like the pod game in structure.</quote>

CHI was a top down strategy game (think MechCommander series), the follow up was; BattleTech: The Crescent Hawks Revenge... The Crescent Hawks were a mercenary group run by Jason Youngblood and hired by Katrina Steiner. After those 2, for the PC, were...

MechWarrior1, MechWarrior2, MW2-Ghost Bear legacy, MW2-Mercenaries, MechCommader1, MechWarrior3, MW3-Pirates Moon, MechCommander 2, MechWarrior4-Vengeance, MW4 IS & Clan packs, MW4-Mercenaries.

Played em all and still have most installed... lol I even have the 80's BattleTech cartoon series


Edited by - Hengist on 13-04-2003 15:18:39

Post Sun Apr 13, 2003 2:18 pm

Wow, I feel downright young. I'm turning 21 tomorrow, and I started gaming in 96 on the PC. My first good games were X-wing and Mechwarrior 2, followed by the original C+C. I never played Elite or any of these other games, so I'm perfectly happy with FL. Half my reason for playing the game (at first) was to explore new systems. Yeah, it's dumbed down from a space sim, but X-wing didn't let you trade, customise your weapons loadout, explore a large universe, buy new ships, change your rep with factions, fly in and out of nebulas, discover and loot derelict ships, be a pirate, land on planets. . . etc. I can live with a simplifed flight and combat system. Shoot, the combat is funner than Escape Velocity for the Mac.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Post Mon Apr 14, 2003 2:00 am

37 here!

Post Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:06 am

Wow...I sure feel special with all these "old" people to play FL with (sarcastic

sarcsasm). I'm 16. And, I have only been 16 for 7 days. I think its interesting

how all of you played on all these old computers. It depresses me that

someday...I will be discussing playing on my Dell PC in 2003, then my kids will

laugh, cause it only had 2.4 GHz instead of 2,945,160,923,465,918,735 Ghz on

the PC I will have in the future when I finally do get kids (hahaha).

-Why is Bra singular and Panties plural?
-If your plan is having no plan, do you have a plan?
-Don't you find it worrying that doctors call treating you their "practice" ?

Post Thu Apr 17, 2003 4:05 am

Hengist...

i think GB came after 2/mercs? 2/M is where you get the tastiest missions if you take that fork and get introduced to that Clan, and the graphics/texture patch was released later <4 mo?> then GB was released after, with that new graphics engine incorporated? Think so. Unless of course you are refering to TIMELINE in which case it's all messed up anyway lol.

didn't know of Pirate's Moon! pls inform? Real game or single-mission pak?

gave up on MC1 when it crashed and stuttered etc but i have MC:2 and did a strat guide for it.

but i gotcha on one thing <g>
current series is MW4-Vengeance, MW4.1-Black Knight (where you get to kick Ian's Dresari butt for pimping you), MW4.5 - Mercenaries. The Mech Paks i dont include for obvious reasons, not being a game in themselves but sorta in the "skins"/Pokemon category <collect 'em all!>

reason i go back to MW2:Mercs a lot is the forking structure of the gameplay and the skill involved. I wish designers would put half as much effort into gameplay as graphics; i'd buy a lot more new games. It took a LONG time to be able to kill ALL the Clan mechs that came for me at the Pirate Airfield (i was determined), and they STILL captured me! But i kept myself warm in my dark, dank prison, remembering the disbelief on their arrogant faces at their ignominious defeat <g>

"Just think of it this way, kid... you get to keep ALL the money"

Post Thu Apr 17, 2003 4:43 am

I'm 39 but I've only been seriously into computer games since '95. I've got a background with tabletop wargames and RPGs that goes back alot further. My opinion of Freelancer, for what it's worth, is contained in other posts. Benign ambivalence would be a good summary but I would look forward to expansion packs and sequels.

Post Thu Apr 17, 2003 6:09 am

:p I am 95 years old and gaming hardcore like max in a wheelchair and this mexican guy shocks my balls with 2 wires

Post Thu Apr 17, 2003 7:26 am

Hmm...let's see


1980: Sears pong-style game. Ooooh, I can feel the addiction at the ripe old age of 10.

1981: Handheld LED football. Hockey. Basketball. Soccer. Space Invaders. Woo-hoo!

1982: Atari 2600. Actually paid for this myself (thank you, paper route). Didn't know you could get blisters in the center of your hand, until Decathalon came along! OK, game ports looked lousy. But they made Yar's Revenge on this system--and the rest is history.

1983 TI 99/4a: I forget, something like 4Hz (no, didn't forget the prefix, kiddies) Loved it, taught myself BASIC and began writing games. Tried to figure out what the hell anyone would use the ARCTAN function for at age 13. OK, math wasn't my strong point yet, but I certainly got a good grasp of algebra doing this stuff.

1985: Commodore 64: Yummy! Games rock! AutoDuel is my life, and I get my first experience with the Origin crowd. And hey, my games now have music! Good graphics! And I have no talent in creating either one, dammit! I start writing numerical simulations of sports leagues. But I'm sure I want to write games for a living.

Post Thu Apr 17, 2003 7:39 am

1988: started college. Welcome to the VAX, buddy. Learn Fortan and Pascal and C, haha. Get degree in Physics. Write new sport simulators, damn they run fast in C on the mainframe. Theoretical electical physics and ice hockey are eating up too much of my gaming time....and I start playing Risk on a Mac.

1989: land computer consultant job at school. start writing trojan horses and other malicious code to steal passwords and disk quotas...but get bored with the life of crime and start playing with PSpice (circuit simulator, for those not in the know).

1991: Switch colleges, build my first PC. Play Wing Commander.

1991 - 2003: build many more pcs, play many clones of WC, write almost no games, hopelessly apply for job at Origin (stop laughing, relatives!) take job as software developer and eventually mutate into senior development manager. Also nearly take job with Sid Meier's Firaxis Corp...but my salary far outstrips my benefit to Firaxis. Waaaah!

March 2003: FreeLancer *finally* ships. My life is complete...for the next couple of months, anyhow. And I'm building yet another rig. Shhh. Don't tell my wife that I bought a RAID motherboard, OK?

Oh, and I'm writing another game....possibly the one FreeLancer was SUPPOSED TO BE....sorry Digital Anvil. But don't expect to see it much before 2014. Gotta keep up that FreeLancer tradition!

Post Thu Apr 17, 2003 6:50 pm

It's already been said before, but I'll throw in my thoughts as well. I'm in my mid 30's. I don't think it's that middle agers are catching up with game fever, I think it's that gaming is simply part of who we are. We were there from the early beginnings. DragonIV's post is probably somewhat similar to many of our experiences. I started on the old Pong set. Moved to Atari 2600 (Logged lots of time with Space Invaders and Adventure). Played the old LED games (racing and football). Played games on Apple II and Intellevision and eventually moved to the Commodore 64 (wrote my own Breakout game). Not to mention all the quarters spent on video games (my favorites were: Tank, Donky Kong, Tron, Centipede, and Gorf).

Unfortunately, once I went to college (mid 80's), I had a long dry period of no games. It wasn't until 1998 that I started playing them again. So I am very ignorant of the games that came out during that time period.

Oh...I should mention I REALLY like Freelancer. That's just about all I've been playing the last few weeks. Sure, it's streamlined from the normal space-sim, but the dogfights are still very exciting. And I am having a blast seeking out new planets and space stations and just sitting back and viewing the graphics of each of them.

Edited by - SSquared on 17-04-2003 19:54:19

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