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Dock camping on Elite server - it has to be addressed

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Post Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:32 pm



about 30 minutes later, I came back, and he had moved on into bretonia space.



This is exactly why this is a problem. It complete bull to have to continually click on connect only to get that dreaded message "server is full" when there's people logged onto Elite doing NOTHING

I'd rather see the Elite server open all the time with available slots than become a home for people sitting around with their thumbs where the sun don't shine. They can, and should do that on their own server....not a high number public one for gawd's sakes.

We're not going to be able to police everyone actions on the server. But if the clans on Elite are pro-active about doing some of these very simple "behavior modifications" then the server is better for everyone including them (no offense non-clan members but by design you don't have a mutual mindset like clans do). More people will join and obviously there's more people for the clans to "pick on." Everyone goes away happy.

Am I the only one that see's this as a win / win situation???

Post Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:41 pm

Maybe this flamfest should be postponed until the server admins can get Elite working properly again.

Post Thu Jun 05, 2003 5:24 pm

........and everyone said I was the only one complaining.

Post Thu Jun 05, 2003 6:39 pm

"I've never been camp-killed before.. by anyone."

im sorry lvxoccvlta but i don't buy it, not at all. i'm on elite allot and to my knowledge i didn't see anyone in megallen, and we have respect for the server admin's ideas/rules, thus what you are saying is crock.


-- to the rest of you who cry --
if you're going to lie and try to get us banned, then i feel pity for you.



500K or bai!

Post Thu Jun 05, 2003 6:41 pm

lvxoccvlta, just for that lie your on my personal kill-on-sight list =)


500K or bai!

Post Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:14 pm

Post Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:25 pm

Hello all this is my first post here.

For the record, I used to play SL a bit (2 or 3 years ago), knew a few people for WP and XD, wanted to find some of those players, and people said go play on Elite.

I am pretty new to the Elite server and not long after joining was warned about clans that run 'bribery rackets' and dock killing.

At first I was unsure about the general etiquette on the server, but my mouth managed to get me in trouble pretty quickly with a few clans.

For what its worth, if anyone cares here my opinion:

PvP: This has to stay. Having 'enemies' has made the game far more interesting and adds a whole new edge to the game.

Bribery: Fine, who's going pay anyway?

Dock Killing: OK a few times maybe to get your point across, but after that it probably just puts people off playing. After all this is supposed to be fun isn't it? Or have I got completely the wrong idea about this server?

Cheers,

agill


Edited by - agill on 05-06-2003 20:40:10

Post Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:50 pm


This is exactly why this is a problem. It complete bull to have to continually click on connect only to get that dreaded message "server is full" when there's people logged onto Elite doing NOTHING



With all due respect, sting, even if this guy is telling the truth, NEO's (and I hope other campers) are smart enough to not just sit and do nothing. As soon as they see

Departing Player: Ridiculous_Ass_Clown_That_Can't_Speak_English

They move on. I doubt very much that for 29 minutes this person idled in front of Freeport 4 and on the 30th minute chose to jump into Manchester. Not only that, but this person could've chosen to pursue other opportunities that just happen to be in Bretonia, and this guy got the wrong idea because Bretonia is directly adjacent to Magellan, and he figured, *since he's the victim,* this horrible NEO was waiting exclusively for him on the other side of the gate, which, flatteredly, I must say is just not true. We have more important bastards to bake than an loose-mannered level 20 who probably just purchased a Dromedary with not much more than $20k worth of water or something onboard. Sorry, but I could give a damn.

Furthermore, on idling and the misuse or server traffic, perhaps you should consult [WPCrying_Devil. Let me be the FIRST to say, however, the last thing I want is to be swept up in the cycle of TLR/Elite politics because I know Crying_Devil is friends with one of the admins, and I don't care that much about this anyway. However I happen to know that for several days, I know that he does nothing. He does not even fly (for more than one minute). He sits on Crete while four or five of us sit outside, and he'll taunt us or try to translate some obscure and unfunny witticism in his head, until he launches and thereafter we advance to kill him and put him back on Crete, and he'll "talk" to us some more. He's a virtual burden to me and he's a physical burden to the server; he does nothing.

Long overdue, despite my lack of interest in sifting through these forums to correct every ounce of bull**** I discover, let me correct the bull****ters here and now, because I don't post much here anyway. The persistence of NEO is driven more by provocation than simple dissatisfaction. Personally I think dock-camping someone all night is ridiculous and wasteful (and to the server as well; make no mistake, I see your point), but unfortunately my capacity to endure "NEO SUX IS CHEATZ" has been overtaken and my associates and I have to respond somehow or another, for fear of "NEO SUX IS CHEATZ" turning into "OMG NEO PUSSYZ" or something of the sort. The pleasure I take in dock-camping is very short-lived, rest assured, but my hope is that perhaps if we reprimand severely enough, their flammability could be on the decline. I understand that the administrators' sympathies come from more than the fact that Bargib and Crying Devil are friends; I know that you have to empathize with those who complain constantly and make themselves out to be harmless mockingbirds; innocent victims. However, I can NEVER recall camping a person of polite amenities and rationale. If I pass someone I don't know, and kill them, 1% of the time I won't get any diologue, and 99% of the time I'll get "O MY GOD WTFUC DID U DO THAT FOR U ASSBITCH HELICOPTER TWAT I HOPE YUO BURN," or something to that effect.

After that, it's safe to say that I feel relatively offended as well. Can't we all be victims? This is when the camping starts. After they're tired of camping, we'll allow them to offer financial reparations for their uncontrolled tongue, and we'll be on our way.



Perhaps this is all too long-winded an illustration of what I'm trying to say, but I ask you please to think that not all of your pitiful victims are as innocent as they might otherwise appear in-game.

Post Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:16 pm

Well put hairy. For the record I've never accepted this problem stemmed from only one clan, that's would be rediculous. But being the butt end of countless racial slurs, sexist remarks, questioning one sexual preference does in fact create victims themselves, no question about that as you alluded to. Great post!

This thread doesn't seem to be going anywhere fast. Guess it's just going to be up to the server admins whether or not to do something about it. For the record, we tried to engage in the conversation.

Thread closing, it's outlived it's usefulness.

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