I'd venture to say Skyblast B's.

Wyrm Type 2's are a little hard to hit with, bad on refire and range.
I dunno any of the high level Rheinland guns though.

I had a list of all the class 9's somewhere, if no one else can remember i'll try and dig it out. Skyblasts are definately up there, Wyrms too. I'm sure the salamanca 2's give you the best damage/energy ratio but i'm maybe wrong. Dont the BHG particle guns (Buckshot and Reaver?) pack alot of punch?

At one point i had 4 class 10's and 2 class 9's with a class 2 turret and was really struggling for energy. So i figured i could replace all the class 10's with salamanca 2's and get a class 8 turret - giving me more damage / time with less energy. However when i did it i felt it was taking ages to kill folk and went back to the class 10's (which luckily i had saved cause i am a total hoarder ). Later i read here, and it makes total sense, that the class 10's do max possible damage to ALL shield types whereas even the bast class 9's are only gonna be 100% effective on one type of shield. So even though some of the class 9's have advantages over the 10's the shield thing swung it for me.

The corsairs sell a cl9 weapon, can't fully remember name, tiz something or other, but is almost pure shield damage. Maybe someone can give me a hand with the name.

Tizona Del Cid ...(you'll see TDC a lot on the forums) Great for shield penetration.

The difficult we do immediately; the impossible just takes longer.

Buckshots are pretty good, reavers are laser but pack a half decent punch. Not up to par with others but are fun to use, I love lasers.

With VHF's the best possible combo is prototypes or nomads + TCD's. Insta death. Not that it's any fun to be flying around like that though......

I personally like the Skyblast B's, however, they have a fast refire rate and sometimes this throws off my aim with all the other weapons. However, the energy consumption compared to damage dealt is great.

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TDC's ROCK, for my two 9 hardpoints I use one TDC and one Wyrm type2, paired up with four nomad weapons, NOTHING gives me trouble.

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TDC (Tizona del Cid) are the best gun for dealing shield damage. It does 1280 shield damage at a 4.00 refire rate (speed 600m/s). It's advisable to have at least one of these at all times (I would carry 2 if you're going to PVP, since player shields can recharge pretty quickly).

The problem with carrying a TDC is the weapon speed. If you use a combination of weapons with different speeds, you generally miss a lot more. This is because the reticle is placed based on your fastest moving weapon's travel speed, so, generally, only your fastest weapon will hit. You'll only really notice this problem when the enemy is running at an angle to your path. If the guy is moving along the same line as you are (either running away or charging you), you'll probably hit with everything.

As such, the best gun I know of to pair with TDC's is the Salamanca Mk II. It's the only class 9 with 600 weapon speed (I think). It does somewhere around 480 hull damage at a 4.00 refire rate.

Other options are Wyrm 2, Buckshot, Kraken 2, and Skyblast B, none of which do I really know anything about. I never ran class 9 weapons other than the TDC.

Firekiss mk 11 is very powerful! around 200 less than a diamondback
i also thing skyblast B and A but i cant find um , neither suncannon c

Skyblast A's can be bought at Gas Miner Ogashawa in Sigma 19 and at Aomori Station in Honshu.

Sky B's can be bought at Gas Miner Naha in Sigma 13.

Suncannon C's can be bought at Ainu Depot in Hokkaido.


I don't know why you would want Sky A's or Sun C's. Both are, IMO, fairly crappy. The Sky B's are definately cool, even though they're real energy hogs...

salamanka MK II has 489/244 damage and 4.00 fire rate. That is the best in my opinion. and it only uses 97 energy. get from corsairs or outcasts

Kraken Type 2, which you can buy at Ruiz Base in Omicron Beta... if you're friendly with the Outcasts. I think people tend to overlook them because they're not sold on Malta. Anyway, 586 hull dmg, 293 shield, 700m range, 700m/s speed, 4.0 refire; a little less efficient than the Salamanca, but a good bit more damage... more damage output, in fact, than most c10 guns. Put 6 of these babies on a Sabre along with a c9 Salamanca turret (perfectly matched range, speed, and refire), and you can mow stuff down -- fast.

Anyone had all the lvl 10s?

Are the diamondbacks the best, or is there a better?

Are there any 8.33 refire lvl 10s?

Anywhere I can get the stats on 'em all?

Tempted as i am to pass of Chams List as my own i'm not gonna. The list of class 10's looks a wee bit short 2 me tho.

(Sorry if this dupes, trouble with posting...)

EDIT - Bollox is the list short, didnt notice he had grouped the ones with same damage

Edited by - redeye on 22-04-2003 20:54:13