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My dear Hare Horse, your point is, of course, not complete, your dear friends at Coopers state furhter:
"Although referred to as 'Non-Alcoholic' it is not possible for home brewers to make a completely alcohol free Home Brew using natural conditioning methods.
That said, the low percentage of alcohol (approximately 0.7%abv), when using the Non-Alcoholic recipe, equates to approximately 1.5litres for one standard alcoholic drink. "
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It was late.
Edited by - Indy11 on 11/5/2005 8:24:24 PM
"Although referred to as 'Non-Alcoholic' it is not possible for home brewers to make a completely alcohol free Home Brew using natural conditioning methods.
That said, the low percentage of alcohol (approximately 0.7%abv), when using the Non-Alcoholic recipe, equates to approximately 1.5litres for one standard alcoholic drink. "
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It was late.
Edited by - Indy11 on 11/5/2005 8:24:24 PM
Damn! I almost always read the fine print... Anyway, at least I can use the <url> tags! Besides, one standard drink out of 1.5 litres is close enough to non-alcoholic.
As for the commercial GB that I consume, there are no such stipulations on the packaging and it can be purchased by all ages, therefore I must assume that they do indeed have a "magical" method of "non-alcoholising" it. Maybe they burn it off or something. Or they sprinkle pixie dust in it. Oh, how the hell should I know? Leave me alone! *Walks off kicking empty GB bottle*
As for the commercial GB that I consume, there are no such stipulations on the packaging and it can be purchased by all ages, therefore I must assume that they do indeed have a "magical" method of "non-alcoholising" it. Maybe they burn it off or something. Or they sprinkle pixie dust in it. Oh, how the hell should I know? Leave me alone! *Walks off kicking empty GB bottle*
the argument isn't whether the finished product contains alcohol but whether or not alcohol is produced as part of its manufacture, which as a brewing process of fermentation involving water, yeast, sugar and heat, it must surely do. it is an alcoholic drink with the alcohol taken out later in the manufactory process. Whereas in the past you have always denied that alcohol was ever present at any stage and that the fermentation process was intrinsically non-alcoholic, which in fact it isnt.
however i do appreciate that you are upside down therefore things look inverted to you including physical and biological laws oh btw I fed the cats on rabbit meat this morning, just thought you'd like to know. they loved it! and I have a nice pair of lapins in the oven right now <yum-yum> stuffed with rosemary and thyme and garlic and onion and coated with a spatchcock style mix of english herbs. I'll post some pics later if you like!
edit:- those were tasty bunnies!
Edited by - Tawakalna on 11/6/2005 9:47:58 AM
however i do appreciate that you are upside down therefore things look inverted to you including physical and biological laws oh btw I fed the cats on rabbit meat this morning, just thought you'd like to know. they loved it! and I have a nice pair of lapins in the oven right now <yum-yum> stuffed with rosemary and thyme and garlic and onion and coated with a spatchcock style mix of english herbs. I'll post some pics later if you like!
edit:- those were tasty bunnies!
Edited by - Tawakalna on 11/6/2005 9:47:58 AM
A little clarification for you, and favors Esq.
No yeast mentioned in it.
However there are other versions such as -
Which is fermented.
A homemade version has -
However, Esq, your info may be off a little -
Looks like several differnces in the items. hmm...
Sources - http://www.popsoda.com/bunginbeer.html
http://www.gingerpeople.com/order_ginger_beer.html
http://www.recipesource.com/side-dishes/beverages/alcohol/01/rec0110.html
Edited by - Bear on 11/6/2005 7:34:24 AM
The Ginger People are proud to announce that its ginger beer was selected as the Outstanding Beverage for the year 2000 by the NASFT. Our non-alcoholic ginger beer is made with real ginger juice and is ALL natural, too. Ginger beer comes as a 4-pack.
Ingredients: water, high fructose corn syrup, naturally pressed ginger juice, natural ginger extract, citric acid, natural flavor. One bottle contains 148 calories, 20mg sodium, 36g carbs.
No yeast mentioned in it.
However there are other versions such as -
Barritts prepares its Bermuda Stone Ginger Beer in the same time-honored way it was brewed over 100 years ago. The finest ginger roots are imported, blended and slow-fermented in stone vessels.
The essences from this fermentation are blended with other natural ingredients which are then added to purified, filtered, sparkling water to become the standard of ginger beers around the world.
Which is fermented.
A homemade version has -
Ginger Beer
Recipe By : Harrowsmith Reader
Serving Size : 20 Preparation Time :0:00
Categories : Beverages
Amount Measure Ingredient -- Preparation Method
-------- ------------ --------------------------------
2 gallons boiling water -- 256 oz.
2 lemon -- thinly sliced
1/4 tsp. cream of tartar
2 pounds sugar, granulated
2 ounces ginger -- chopped
1/2 teaspoon yeast
Boil the water in a stainless steel or enamel pot. Add all remaining
ingredients except the yeast. Simmer 20 minutes. Cool to lukewarm and taste.
Add more ginger for a livelier flavour.
Dissolve yeast in one cup of the mixture and stir back in. Cover and allow to
ferment 34-36 hours at 65-70F, i.e. mix it in the morning and bottle the next
evening. When a slight white skin of foam appears on the top of the brew it is
ready to bottle.
Siphon or pour into sterlized bottles removing any lemon slices. After capping
age the bottles upright for one week at 60-65F then store in the refrigerator or
basement cool room below 60F. NB: This cool
storage is very important.
However, Esq, your info may be off a little -
Bundaberg Ginger Beer
12.7oz Bottle
This is REAL ginger beer, brewed naturally with only the finest ingredients to a traditional recipe that has been passed down through generations of Bundaberg brewers.
You can taste the difference, and you can see the difference too. Real ginger beer has tiny pieces of real ginger in it, giving it a unique cloudy appearance.
The Ginger we use to make Bundaberg Ginger Beer is grown and harvested by hand to retain its unique health-giving properties. In fact, this same high quality ginger is used in many herbal medicines to improve circulation and digestion and to relieve nausea, motion sickness, coughs, colds and rheumatism. Malt is another healthy, natural ingredient we use, containing high levels of enzymes. And Bundaberg Ginger Beer is fermented with Brewers Yeast, a good source of protein, amino acids, vitamins B12 and B6. The local water we use is renowned as some of the purest ground water in the world.
Contains: Water, Sugar, Ginger, Malt, Citric Acid, Natural Flavour, Yeast, Preservatives: Sodium Benzoate, Sodium Methbisulfate.
Looks like several differnces in the items. hmm...
Sources - http://www.popsoda.com/bunginbeer.html
http://www.gingerpeople.com/order_ginger_beer.html
http://www.recipesource.com/side-dishes/beverages/alcohol/01/rec0110.html
Edited by - Bear on 11/6/2005 7:34:24 AM
Wait. If that Ginger People ginger beer wasn't brewed, how can it be called a beer? At best that award winner merely is ginger soda, not even an ale. Truth in advertising is lost on that one.
If the point is that it is an authentic ginger beer, it has to be brewed. And brewing involves fermentation. And fermentation, by definition, involves the action of a brewer's yeast on sugars and the production of alcohol.
If the point is that it is an authentic ginger beer, it has to be brewed. And brewing involves fermentation. And fermentation, by definition, involves the action of a brewer's yeast on sugars and the production of alcohol.
Filthy Mullah - Lies! I have never "denied that alcohol was ever present at any stage and that the fermentation process was intrinsically non-alcoholic". I simply maintained that the (finished) product was non-alcoholic which was evidenced by the fact that the beverage could be purchased by minors. This statement continues to be borne out regardless of the methods used to remove any trace amounts of alcohol that are produced. And my brethren *will* be avenged!
"Bear" - There are many brands with differing manufacturing processes. The proper stuff contains yeast, ginger, and sugar which would seem to suggest a certain amount of fermentation.
Indy - My assumption is that they "extract" the alcohol before bottling the product for sale. Maybe they burn it off or something, I do not know. I have never been to the factory in Bundaberg, Queensland mainly because I fear that I would have an poplexy with that much GB around (). Hence, I cannot tell you for sure.
Para - Shuddup! You're supposed to be a hunter, so go and hunt! Stop hanging around forums on the internet! Or go and buy a new machete or something .
"Bear" - There are many brands with differing manufacturing processes. The proper stuff contains yeast, ginger, and sugar which would seem to suggest a certain amount of fermentation.
Indy - My assumption is that they "extract" the alcohol before bottling the product for sale. Maybe they burn it off or something, I do not know. I have never been to the factory in Bundaberg, Queensland mainly because I fear that I would have an poplexy with that much GB around (). Hence, I cannot tell you for sure.
Para - Shuddup! You're supposed to be a hunter, so go and hunt! Stop hanging around forums on the internet! Or go and buy a new machete or something .
There is a way to verify/falsify about the percdentage of alcohol in GB - and this way could please our 'Big Mjullaw':
Is it sold in - Saudi Arabia ?
No kidding. Some years ago a Swiss company got the permission to brew "Ex-Bier" in Saudi-Arabia (it's - you guess it - Beer with 0,0 % of alcohol). The problem was that the Beer without alcohol in the rest of the world is not accepted as "without alcohol" in islamic countries. Our laws allow the statement "free of ..." if the percentage is lower than 0,5 %. This applies to alcohol or genetic modified food or ....
That's why the company had to adapt/reinvent the technical process that the "Ex-Beer" IS a beer and has NONE of alcohol.
AFAIK from commercial reasons the company later stopped the production.
Is it sold in - Saudi Arabia ?
No kidding. Some years ago a Swiss company got the permission to brew "Ex-Bier" in Saudi-Arabia (it's - you guess it - Beer with 0,0 % of alcohol). The problem was that the Beer without alcohol in the rest of the world is not accepted as "without alcohol" in islamic countries. Our laws allow the statement "free of ..." if the percentage is lower than 0,5 %. This applies to alcohol or genetic modified food or ....
That's why the company had to adapt/reinvent the technical process that the "Ex-Beer" IS a beer and has NONE of alcohol.
AFAIK from commercial reasons the company later stopped the production.
Taw - You *do* know that the rabbits that you have been catching and eating have been under orders to take their suicide pills? The trace amount of toxins left should make your meals... interesting. Tell me, have the halucinations started yet? Mwahahaha!?!
Zaz - I'd be interested in knowing exactly how they did that.
Zaz - I'd be interested in knowing exactly how they did that.
Taw - You *do* know that the rabbits that you have been catching and eating have been under orders to take their suicide pills? The trace amount of toxins left should make your meals... interesting. Tell me, have the halucinations started yet? Mwahahaha!?!
Zaz - I'd be interested in knowing exactly how they did that.
Zaz - I'd be interested in knowing exactly how they did that.
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