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Most overlooked game of ''03 and ''04.

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Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:14 pm

Most overlooked game of ''03 and ''04.

I am curious, what do you think the most overlooked or under rated game of the last two years were?

For me, although Freelancer was a top seller for a couple of weeks in April of 2003, the hype ended all too soon. It's a great game and only maybe two or three people in my school besides myself even know about it's existance.

I do not have much of an under rated game besides the Splinter Cell series. A lot of people said the series is too damn hard and linear, but that was just the first one. Pandora Tomorrow did a better job in ballancing the whole thing out, you had some really easy parts of a level and then some that it took me hours and hours to get through. Chaos Theory fixed almost every problem people had with the first two Splinter Cell games, good AI, non-linear objectives, sencational graphics (especally on Xbox) and cool gadgets. But sadly, most people lost hope with the Splinter Cell franchize after the dissapointment of the first one. They said it was too linear, not polished at all, crappy colision dection, too hard, etc.

But I just want to know your opinions.

Why is it that whenever I try to post a picture as part of a post or my sig, it never works?

Edited by - killa on 6/7/2005 1:14:20 PM

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:53 pm

Enter the Matrix? I think that is brilliant, although everyone else thinks its crap...

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:08 pm

Evil Genius. I don't know anyone else who knows about it.

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:12 pm

I've seen ads for it. Is it any good?

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:18 pm

nj maybe you should get off your arse and google it, there are hundreds of people who know about it.

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:30 pm

@Outcast
Maybe because it is crap?

I agree that Evil Genius was criminally underrated (see what I did there?). ff, you can google just about anything and get loads of hits, not all of them strictly relevant.

What about the most overrated game then?
I think Enter the Matrix is a good contender

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:01 pm

I just thought of a game that is in my book, extreemly over rated. The Final Fantasy series. I don't mind the story or the characters, but the turn-based combat just ruined it for me. It is nothing but a borefest. You attack, you miss then your enemy attacks and you just stand there and get hit, rince, lather, repeat. And Final Fantasy X is said to have the hardest final boss of any game, Everay (not sure about spelling, I have only heard the name pronounced).

Why is it that whenever I try to post a picture as part of a post or my sig, it never works?

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:02 pm

ICO for the PS2 if it was out in 2003. Can't remember in all honesty. It may have been 2002. This game never recieved the accolaide that it duly deserved. It was one of the most original games ever and was a heart wrenching experience to play.

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:22 pm

Ground Control II: Operation Exodus was by far the most underrated game of 2004. It has almost everything a strategy gamer could want; innovative gameplay, gorgeous graphics, an engaging storyline, and robust multiplayer. I can't for the life of me understand why it wasn't more popular.

And I'll just make a comment to preempt freighter fighter's inevitable Google suggestion. I bloody well know that there are other people who play the game, buddyboy. That doesn't make it popular. The idea is that there should be more of them. Geddit?

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:57 pm

Well FFX is over hyped but ill tell you i like the turn based combat because its more stratagy oriented then the others, good for me but...
an ill tell you, Yu Yevon (last boss of FFX) is totally easy! first for some reason all your charecter have auto life so you cant die!
some people might have troble at the fact he Does the Unti Heal thing every time you hurt him but that parts easy, just have Yuna cast reflect on it so when it heals itself it heals you (though then you cant use Lulu but thats not that bad)

But in my opinion the Most under rated game of all time (really old but good as ever) is : Total Annialation
That game came out like 8 years ago and is stil kickin!and i love it!

"If im phased and can walk through stuff, then why am I not falling through the floor?"

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:01 pm

Ok well maybe it wasen't the final boss, but I do remember having a friend quit playing Final Fantasy because of the fight with Everay. You know, the guardian of the skies or something. Up until that point, he had been a very loyal fan of the FF series. He got started when Final Fantasy 1 and 2 Dawn of Souls came out on the GBA, and in four months he had beaten all of the other FF games. I was never over at his house when he was playing it, but once. And I did see him slamming the controler down in frustration because Everay owned him every time. So many broken controlers.

Why is it that whenever I try to post a picture as part of a post or my sig, it never works?

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:20 pm

what the hell? splinter cell? ffx? these games are like so hyped and succesful its untrue.

enter the matrix was overhyped and a pile of crap.

i'll second evil genius. and also republic: the revolution. both by elixir studios and both a little bit too good for what we deserve. Unfortunately the studio went under because of lacking sales.

personally, my most overlooked game of all time is Star Wars: rebellion/supremacy (google for it) and i still get it out every few months and emark on an epic multiplayer game.

of 03/04 i would have to say that Tron 2.0 was the most overlooked game. Very cool for someone like me who always loved the tron movie and reveled the chance to do all the cool disk action as well as light cycles. They even shipped the mod tools with it and i was REALLY expecting some seriously awesome mods to come out of it, allowing me to recapture the 80s and the fun of the movie yet nothing came from it. It still sits on my shelf and i always promise to play through it again and maybe even spent the time to create soemthing for it, but i, like the rest of the world, dont have the time for it.

-arc

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:41 pm


personally, my most overlooked game of all time is Star Wars: rebellion/supremacy (google for it) and i still get it out every few months and emark on an epic multiplayer game.

Oh, dude, I am *so* with you there. Rebellion was fantastic. The only problem with it was that it was too much, too soon. Computers back in the day just didn't have what it took, really. I can only imagine how awesome it could have been had it been released nowadays with the sort of computing power we have available. Massive space battles with hundreds of fully 3D ships on either side, a greater breadth of tactical options, ship upgrades and custom loadouts, full control over ground forces during an invasion... the list goes on and on, and it's fan-goddamn-tastic. This would all come at the cost of 20 Gb of HDD space, sure, but it would be worth it. So, so worth it.

I should really dig out my copy and see if I can find RebEd.

Post Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:10 pm

@FlyingBeef: I'm with you and against you.

Total Annihilation is, to me, one the best, if not, the best Real-Time Strategy released. I am yet to get more involved in another game similar. (except maybe Starcraft.)

Your comments onf FF-X. Yu-Yevon was not the hardest boss in the game. Its a toss-up between Dark Bahumut and Nemesis. Heck, even Ultima Weapon was harder thatn Yu Yevon, and he was piss weak compared to Omega, who compared to the FF-VIII incarnation of Omega is a weak piece of ****.

@bret: Ico was damn good. It wasn't cool, but just because it wasn't cool, doesn't mean it wasn't good.

Evil Genius was an absolute gem, I had sooo much fun playing the demo, and was disappointed to not be able to find the full version in my local game store.

However, to me, there is one series of games which, in my opinion, are the best, yet most under-rated games ever. The System Shock Series. It saddens me to hear that Looking Glass Studios collapsed, and that EA is not willing to make another one. For it's time, SS1 and SS2 were some of the most innovative RPG/FPS games in exsistance.

Other games which were ridiculously under-rated were:

Uplink:
Probably the most unique game to be created this century. Very similar to Neuromancer, but this game is slick, stylish, and pure fun. Who would think that hacking could be made into a legal activity?

Sam And Max Hit The Road:
This was a cult classic. Abosolute classic. If you don't know about it, you have been deprived. proves the theory that talking rabbits are funny, but make them psychotic, and they're hilarious. (another example is our own Esky)

Grim Fandango:
Yup, another LucaasArts classic before they thought it was a good idea to ass-rape their noble heritige. More info at the site provided.

If you're interested in this stuff, here's a site for you:
You shall not be dissapointed.

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You wanna revolution?

Edited by - Finalday on 6/8/2005 5:03:54 AM

Post Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:03 am

"supremacy"

tell me you're joking; it was a great idea that i really looked forward to ruined by buggy coding, teeny maps, predictable AI and limited gameplay. mine went straight in the junkpile in the corner.

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