Esq, help thanks?... i know you''r there!

Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:37 am by Aod

i wanna get a radeon 9800, although i was until now
blocked by price would you reccomend getting this

Sapphire ATI Radeon 9800SE 128MB DDR TV-Out/DVI - Retail (GX-042-SP)
RADEON™ 9800 Series of visual processors is the most visually advanced 3D performer on the planet, delivering an immersive, cinematic experience for the most demanding next-generation games with up to 256MB of DDR memory and a 128-bit memory interface. Merging advanced stability with revolutionary features, RADEON™ 9800 Series is the only Visual Processing family in its 2nd generation. Prepare yourself for the world's fastest and most compelling gameplay, courtesy of the unprecedented power, control and eight-pipeline architecture of RADEON™ 9800 Series. Experience feature film quality on your PC, the new standard in 3D entertainment. Advanced stability meets revolutionary features with support for Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0, OpenGL® feature sets and the only cinematic quality Visual Processing Unit in its 2nd generation. Featuring CATALYST™, the industry's most stable 3D acceleration software.

- 270MHz Core clock speed
- 128MB of 540MHz DDR memory provides increased performance
- 128-bit memory interface delivers the bandwidth for real-time 3D graphics
- 4-pixel pipeline architecture doubles the rendering power
- SMARTSHADER™ 2.1 supports latest Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0, enabling cinematic quality lighting and shadow effects
- SMOOTHVISION™ 2.1 delivers the sharpest, clearest textures without sacrificing frame rates
- 128-bit full floating point enables billions of color variations for same lighting and effects as Hollywood studios
- Featuring CATALYST™, the industry's most stable 3D acceleration software
- Supports the latest Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 and OpenGL® feature sets
- FULLSTREAM™ removes blocky artifacts from streaming Internet video
- VIDEOSHADER™ integrates features to provide unprecedented support for digital and high definition video

Price: £112.00 (£131.60 Including VAT at 17.5%)

I like Morrowind!

Edited by - Aod on 1/31/2004 4:35:21 PM

Edited by - Aod on 1/31/2004 4:49:42 PM

Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:35 am by gromit

I'd recommend the radeon series in the blink of an eye...I use the 9000Pro, and although superceded now its still an awesome card.

Looks a good price too

Fri Jan 30, 2004 7:56 am by Aod

yeh grom i also have a radeon 9000 pro, but its not workin very well

Fri Jan 30, 2004 2:45 pm by Esquilax

No!!! Do NOT go for this card! It is another one of those cut-down models. Firstly, it runs at only 270MHz, the same speed as my 9700 Pro (not OC'd), the memory interface is only 128-bit not 256, and it has only four pixel pipelines; it should have eight. I seriously doubt that performance would be what you would like. Of course, I'd recommend checking out some reviews on it just to make sure. You have to watch out for these trimmed-down models, they are tricky to spot if you don't know what you are looking for.

Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:22 pm by Wolf_Demon

well then what DO you consider "the best"?

- Wolf_Demon - aka wolfy, wolf, king of odd, king of spam, and twonk

Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:35 pm by Esquilax

As usual old son, it depends upon what you need it for, and your budget. The 9800 Pro XT is the fastest, but is only slightly faster than the 9800 Pro, yet costs much more. The best all-round card is probably a 9600 Pro, as is can be overclocked to insane levels with stock cooling, and is cheap. The 9500 Pro is very good as a different BIOS can make it into a 9700. Still, a 9700 Pro is still a good card. My own 9700 can be overclocked from 270/275 (Core/Memory) to 340/310 with stock cooling. Thus, it is great for playing things like MAx Payne 2, Halo, UT2003, etc on full detail with excellent results. So it all depends upon upon your needs. By the way, don't take that tone with me!

Fri Jan 30, 2004 4:14 pm by Wolf_Demon

i dont really have a list of wat i want
i just need a new sound card, graphics card, and an extra harddrive (for some reason mine just keep failing and i end up having to wipe the memory and get it fixed)
and it all has to work on windows 98

(and how come i cant save things as jpegs? does win 98 support them?)

- Wolf_Demon - aka wolfy, wolf, king of odd, king of spam, and twonk

Sat Jan 31, 2004 1:46 pm by Esquilax

Most hardware should work on 98, as drivers will be supplied with the cards, and you wouldn't need a driver for a new HDD. As for JPEGs, I cannot recall. Sometimes when using paint, you have to save them as bitmaps first, and then convert them to JPEG by opening them through paint again. If that doesn't work then you can download a BMP to JPEG converter ro whatever. There are heaps of free converters around.

Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:27 pm by Aod

Esq, so if you reccomend the 9500, where can i get one or a 9700
it seems that these two cards dont exist, here i havent heard a
whisper of them other that you and Taw, links? i like links, gimme
links

like the sig?

Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:30 pm by Aod

so maybe esq one of these,:

Asus ATI Radeon 9600XT/TVD 128MB & Half Life 2 Bundle - Retail (GX-020-AS)
ASUS Radeon9600XT/TVD equips with newest ASUS-specific award-winning features and ATI®'s Radeon™ 9600XT Visual Processing Unit(VPU), which owns both ultimate excellent cinematic resolution and fierce graphics computing power. Incorporating various state-of-the-art technologies such as ATI's SmartShader™ 2.1, SmoothVision™ 2.1, Hyper Z™ III+, VideoShader™, and unique ASUS innovations such as "ASUS Smart Cooling" ,"ASUS GameFace", "ASUS VideoSecurity", and "ASUS Digital VCR"make ASUS Radeon9600XT /TVD a complete solution for the 3D market.

- ATI Radeon 9600 XT Graphics Engine
- 128 MB DDR Video Memory
- 500MHz Engine Clock
- 300MHz(600MHz DDR) Memory Clock
- 400MHz RAMDAC
- AGP8X/4X/2X Bus Standard
- 128-bit DDR Memory Interface
- 2048x1536 Max Resolution
- Standard 15-pin D-sub VGA Output
- DVI-I Output
- 2nd VGA Output
- S-VHS and Composite TV-out
- S-VHS and Composite Video-in

Price: £112.00 (£131.60 Including VAT at 17.5%)

Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:52 pm by Esquilax

The 9500 and 9700 are hard to find these days, as they have been supplanted by the 9600 and 9800 respectively. Consider trying Ebay, or something like that. The 9600 XT is a very good balance between cost and performance. Still, I'm not a fan of the 128-bit memory interface or only four pixel pipelines, but they are only on expensive cards these days. Here are some links for you, as requested;

9600 XT Review

Multiple VGA Cart Comparison

If you want more information/reviews (and I think you should get some) search on Google. I can't do everything for you! Sorry, it's an old IT rule.

Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:54 pm by Aod

Thanks

Sat Jan 31, 2004 11:31 pm by Esquilax

No problem, old son

. Tell us what you decide upon, and how it performs for you.

Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:49 am by Aod

i might spalsh out and get a 9800 pro, but thats
a big maybe, and wont happen for some time, atleast
untill april, woah thats like 3 months down!

like the siggy?

Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:20 pm by Wolf_Demon

half life 2 comes with that? but its not even out!

- Wolf_Demon - aka wolfy, wolf, king of odd, king of spam, and twonk

Edited by - ):Wolf_Demon

on 2/2/2004 3:47:19 PM

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