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Bad guys in films and games.

This is where you can discuss your homework, family, just about anything, make strange sounds and otherwise discuss things which are really not related to the Lancer-series. Yes that means you can discuss other games.

Post Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:19 pm


um, Kilrah?


Home of the Kilrathi, the race of cat like people trying to destroy humanity in the Wing Commander series.

Post Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:21 pm

I totally knew that. Really...

Post Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:59 pm

Perfect and most annoying enemy of all time in my opinion:
Nithalanth from the end of half life
Folowed very closely by the omnipresent and invincible G-Man.

Post Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:25 am

Off-topic:
Anyone see the similarity between the Nihilanth and William Hague's head? Stick two pics of 'em together and you'll see.

On-topic:
I'm very much of the evil Nazis camp. There's nothing more evil in the movies than a fanatical Nazi, complete with cold grey eyes, very pale skin and cropped blonde hair. I guess it all depends on what type of baddie you need. If you want a baddie who schemes and outwits his opponents with a rather nasty evil streak, it has to be an Englishman with a "BBC-speak" accent as Taw puts it. The English are also used in the historical based films as evil empire builders opressing every country the colonise or conquer. The Nazis however are perfect for the most overblown "you can tell he's evil from the first moment you see him" type baddie. Central and South Americans make the nasty double-crossing drug baron characters. There was a time when S.African characters with a thick Afrikaaner accent were used as symbols of repression and cruelty. Russians make up the evil commies who are supposedly hell-bent on world domination. Lets not forget the various groups of people who have become targets for baddies in the movies as the western world goes into different wars. The Vietnamese were the baddies of several films, as have been the Iraqis, the Afghans and the Serbians. More recently with Black Hawk Down it's been the Somalians. I don't think it'll be all that long before a movie with a Zimbabwean baddie will turn up. Hollywood picks their baddies according to politics and stereotypes.
I've gotta say, you rarely see an Australian baddie and the American ones tend only to be criminal characters in movies entirely set within the US.

EDIT: Actually now I think about it I have seen an Aussie baddie: that guy with a chainmail vest in "Commando" starring Arnie Schwarzenegger. But even then he was a really laughable baddie ~ "Strewth, it's Commander Matrix, let's get outta here"

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Edited by - Recusant on 1/12/2004 9:28:26 AM

Post Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:26 pm

wasn't always the case though, during the 70s after Watergate a lot of American films portrayed politicians as the enemy, like in Parallax View. And of course there was always Burt Lancaster and his mad general character in films like 7 Days in May, and Richard Widmark in stuff like the Bedford Incident.

just checked out it's IMDB entry and got this in the user comments, pretty much sums up why film plots are so frickin sterotypical these days..

"No outrageous special effects, huge explosions, ridiculously unbelievable stunts, or mannered performances. Why can't Hollywood make politically suspenseful films like this.. ..anymore???? Of course, I know the answer. Modern movie audiences have the attention span of a gnat, the cerebral tenacity of a chipmunk, and the spoiled expectations of a pampered child."

too true, too true.

Post Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:02 pm

Off topic I met the guy who played the evil sherif in shanghi noon, and he plays bad guys for a living, but he's really nice, He showed the people at the party the tape of every time he died in a movie and it is halerious, all strung together,

on topic, You have to like a American/Russian evil Buissness tycoon trying to take over the world. but in genral teh british or the Nazis make the best bad guys.

If life is unfair how come I haven't won yet?

Post Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:47 am

I'm a fan of espionage thrillers so to me the best nationality for a bad guy is the same nationality as the hero....but one who's slightly too "patriotic" if ya get my drift...we're talking Jack Nicholson (YOU WANT THE TRUTH??) sort of stuff. The one's that wear suits, shades and earpieces and blatantly look like spooks.

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