Why is everyone talking about atmosphere and stuff. Why not creat enormous bio-spheres? I think that's easier than developing an atmosphere.

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Yes you could create a bio-sphere, but then you'd have less of area to live, grow, and farm.

Maybe at first they could live in bio-domes, but tereform it as they live in the spheres. But once that is done, live outside them.

Life: No one gets out alive.

Why go through all that effort. Just use your ship as a massive orbital biodome. That's what it's been doing for the trip out anyway. If the teraforming process doesn't need colse monitoring than you just saved youself some construction costs

what, biodome is such a cheap way out. Why not aim for the unnatainable. if we just sat around doin easy tasks, we'd never get anywhere new without ambition.

I think we should pollute the hell out of the planet, throw as much crud into the atmospherer and create at least SOME form of barrier that covers the planet. Hell, we could even do a matrix and block out the sun (as long as we know how to undo the damage. Then the planet below will develop an atmosphere on its own. For people to live while this is all going on, its a good idea to create a bio-dome anyway, so we can keep the scientists and engineers and soldiers somewhere.


"it has to start somewhere, it has to start sometime, what better place than here, what better time than now"

I rather liked the idea of putting the planet into nuclear winter. Destroy whatever is there. Than, introduce some of those hearty bacteria from yellowstone and in a few million years, voila! Home grown earth

I don't think we have a few million years to sit around and twiddle our thumbs.

Life: No one gets out alive.

all well and good. were this ever to become actually realisable, and be seriously proposed, and Earth still be as it is now more or less, I would be against it. why? because the resources spent terraforming new planets would be better spent solving long-standing issues on Earth. just what Ithink.

however should Earth be more or less sorted out in the future, I wouldn't have any problem with slodging money in space. mind you i doubt i'll be there to see it, I wont get past 2030-2040 probably.

I agree with Taw...
The first step in teraforming a planet is to get your own in good enough shape, stop the dying of your own world first... if you figure out how to do that, then you can build your own world.

Also, I think that Earth's society and civilazation would have to become one, not multiple ones. It has to be everyone's one goal, not these 5 countries go in on it together with their own future plans for the outcome. Now I am not suggesting forced religions or cultures, but like a mutual moment of clearity when we realize that we are all human, and all 1 race of beings (I believe that this would solve the dying world thing faster too), then we can look to the stars for a second home.

"On this ship you are to refer to me as Idiot, not you Captain. I mean... you know what I mean."

On simulation, i managed to terraform mars in under 500 years.
that was with unlimited supplies.
and the atmospheric pressure was about 14 ams when i finished.

we have to have about a millemium and alot of supplies, fiddle, get it right, and then start on some serious terraforming.

Have you been playing Sim Earth?

Life: No one gets out alive.

Do they sell it anymore?



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I wouldn't be supprised....I have it among with some other sim games.

Life: No one gets out alive.

I've never heard of it but sounds neat.

Annywaaaaay..... the question now seems to be weather or not to terraform at all. My answer is: If you want to!

Our government is built to make the most people happy most of the time. So, if some (ok, a LOT) of the people (taxpayers mind you) want to terraform and later colonize another world, we can mumble all day about what we think they ought to do but if it is what they want they can do it! Really nice thing about free enterprise and democracy.

So by this token, one or multiple governments, corporations, Bill Gates drinking buddies (should they exist), whatever, have the right to go teraform the universe as they see fit, weather or not there are (for example) starving people in China.

WLB Said:

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So by this token, one or multiple governments, corporations, Bill Gates drinking buddies (should they exist), whatever, have the right to go teraform the universe as they see fit,

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As far as those on Earth are concerned. Yes. We can do as we please. But there actually may be others, I have no proof that there are others so I won't press this point as a matter of reality, who would find our "arrogance" highly objectionable. One would hope that they couldn't really do something about it if we do end up getting someone else upset.

After all we would be "terra"-forming. Who is to say that only terraforming will yield a viable life sustaining environment? I know this sounds like a joke but it is meant as a serious question.

Edited by - Indy11 on 10-12-2003 05:12:47