.....(shakes head)
since you asked im not gonna yell, but if you would scroll down through the forums for off topic you will find a huge forum dealing pretty time travel and a debate on if it is really possible or not.

Didin't see any... Thats why i posted


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there is !! unless some thoughtful modder deleted it..
anyways, i've been rethinking about this whole issue.
*i've just watched T3*
say there is no future written.
then, we'd all be travelling in one timeline, whereby past is past, and is not in any separate timeline. by going back in time, whatever changes we make in the past leads to changes in the present that is only affected directly by the change that we make.
i.e./e.g.; say you go back in time to kill your grandfather. when you return to the present, you'd not have any parents. that is the direct consequence of killing your grandfather. you are the indirect result of your grandfather, so you's still exist. no paradox. its like a back to front S thing. where the top bit is the past, the middle bit is going back, changing past, returning to future, and the bottom bit is the altered present. say you put urself in that inverted 'S' timeline. the timeline represents ur course of life. at the beginning, ur born, at the curve, time machine is made and you go back in time. the middle bit is whree you fiddle with the past. then you return. no parents since no grandparents to produce your parents. i know this sounds weird, but i'm guessing your parent's empty place would be taken by your originally great-grandparents as there is a time gap - or they simply don't exist in the whole of history.

i know this sounds weird but it was a new theory of mine.

Everyone assumes that time travel is already a possibility--a time machine already exists. Well, since travelling really really fast is what enables time travel, all you need is a light-speed ship, right? The thing is, the faster you go, the more mass you have, thus requiring a larger enginge. With present energy 'makers,' (power plants, hehe) if you will, this would not work, because for a 10 tonne ship to travel the speed of light or faster you would need I think it was 5.1*10^26 which would be 510,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (I think) jules of energy, which obviously requires a huge engine.

A huge engine requires a huge energy source. Right now the largest energy producing method is nuclear energy. Soon, we hope to obtain fusion energy, which puts out proportionally more energy than nuclear fission. The thing scientists are looking for is something that if you put in a certain amount of energy, it will put out more energy than it took in. There is another source of power no one has been able to harness. Now, in theory, if we were to combine matter with antimatter, there would be 1 of 2 things:

1. A huge explosion=no controlled energy
2. Controlling this energy, we would gain an infinite source of power.

Ok. Now we've found a power source for our time travel machine. (If any of you've seen Star Trek: Enterprise, they talk about antimatter engines in one of their episodes) Anyway, after billions of dollars on research and thousands of failed experiments, we have harnessed antimatter and created an engine to convert the energy into propelling the ship into light-speed.

Then there's the question about physics. Einstein proved in his theories and studies that nothing can ever go faster than the speed of light. You might get .0000000000000000000000000000000000001 (obviously it goes on forever)away, just never exceed it. Thus, you can't go faster than light=no real time travel...

So, is time travel really possible? Yes, because we know that if you go really really fast time bends with you, slowing it down. Is it possible to go back or forward significantly in time to change the present/past/future? I leave that up to you.

Say time travel is truly a reality. Then we go on to the question about paradoxes and such. Personally, I hate to think about those things, it just hurts my little head. you know, granpas dead, you're dead, but you were born, so you get different parents, etc, etc.

please refer to the topic An interesting Debate by Lutz it covers the topic

sure its possible, if you dont mind ****ing with physics

"What? Another girl! Tell me my boy. *whispers* what have you been doing?" - Tobias

I don't. Time isn't linear, either. Especially when the concept of infinity gets chucked in.

The closest thing to time travel, I'd say, weould be to use a quantum compy, and teleport us from this dimension to another "in the past" so to speak.

do you REALY want to travel in time to corect things?
I for one don't cous mistakes and problems in the past have made me to who I am today.
ok so you do timetravel it would only be for cientific(?)reasons and research.
and if there is only one timeline you can only go back in the past becouse the future is not yet written.

I dont believe, however theoretical its posible. All paradox solved since there is theory about parallel time lines or parallel univerces.
btw You can time travel now here is how:
build rocket ship,
fly with high speed toward what ever you like,
after, say, 50 years come back.
when you araive you`ll notics that you been in space longer then you thought.
in fact twin bro is older then you.



Moby

This is what I like to call 'pooling our collective ignorance'.

Every single post seems to be a regurgitation of a previously written work, and in many cases displays a certain level of education, since the schooling from the following year would change the assumptions of the post. As you progress from a junior high level, to a senior high level, to a university education you witness theories you formerly believed inviolate being ground into the dust. As time progresses we continually unlearn everything we have 'learned' before. That's a point of historical significance, but it's also a good prediction of what will happen in the future. I predict our current theories are junk, and future ones will illustrate possibilities we are not even aware of at the moment.

Einstein's theory of special relativity is one of the greats, but is certainly not proven. In fact, it is known to be incorrect when applied on a quantum level, so it is in desperate need of revision. Theories are never 'proven'. They are simply working models that get us by until a new theory comes along.

Incidently, one of the byproducts of Einstein's works is that causality is no longer taken for granted. In simpler words, it is no longer simply assumed that there is a direct relationship between cause and effect. This premise opens up a world of possibilities. The trick is that when you delve into relativity you realize that many of the assumptions we take for granted are not truly applicable on a universal scale, and our paradigms are limited by our frame of reference. We always believe that causal relationships are linear because when the speeds of participating factors are similar they appear to be linear. Never in our years have life have we seen anything to deny this linear casaul relationship, but that is simply because none of us have ever been traveling at greatly dissimilar speeds in relation to the rest of our 'world'.

This same concept applies to everything we 'know', everything we 'theorize' and everything we 'suspect'. Our perceptions are limited by our frame of referance. Einstein explored in detail what relativistic speed would do to our then-current theories and found that it trashed them. He then built a model to compensate for the newly discovered 'hole'. Bravo. That's speed. We have no idea what other limitations apply to our 'kowledgable' viewpoints. Dimensional dissimilarities? that's a start. others? There is always a bigger world out there, and at this point in human history, all we are really doing is playing in our local sandbox and quantifying the rules of the sandbox as if we have obtained the sum total of all knowledge.

ANYTHING is possible my friends. We don't really have the knowledge or tools of discovery to state otherwise.

EDITED, becuz I'm the w0rst spellar in the werld.

Edited by - Gung_Ho on 03-08-2003 17:14:03

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No WW II, therefore there can be no history lessons on it, you cannot grow up knowing what happend because it never existed.

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Most people ignore or have already forgotten the lessons WW2 taught us. I don't think it would matter. The world would still be as screwed up as it ever was.

You can only help shape the future, not change it.

I think it might be possible

"A TopGun through and through"

No. I don't thnk that much energy could ever be harnessed by something in with a state of mass. If it was possible I think only pure energy could do it. The results of what could happen are more interesting though IMO. That was what the thread "An interesting debate" was all about. If you're interested Xenocideforme go look it up, its got some really good posts in there by many people......

If it wasn't for the inky blackness of the night you wouldn't appreciate the brilliance of the stars...

oh dear.

I think its possiable to go foward in time, but not backwards. Because eventually you would get a disturbance like seeing your self. While if you went forwards you wouldnt see yourself and there wouldnt be any disurbance.

So...
Forward, yes.
Backwards, no.

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