yeah, joining is easy...for multiplayer anyway...just set the player faction in the newcharacter.ini

If you could be anyone, would you be me?

umm so does this faction setting stay with you forever or is there a possibility of losing it when playing? If there is, then there is no way to obtain your faction tag back while playing again. Once again you face the issue of being factionless...

Oh, you mean like being an actual entity in a faction....I don't think that is possible...it's just understood that you belong to all factions you are friendly with

If you could be anyone, would you be me?

You are a Freelancer, you don't JOIN factions. You work for them.

By working for them their opinion of you goes up which allows you to get various benefits from them (some products are only sold to people with high enough faction).

Thus, creating new factions has nothing to do with being able to JOIN them.

creating new faction would be great to sell new items only with them

another thing maybe its possible to make it harder to get good reputation because now it rather simple to do it mabe if you make that harder (especially for he new facts) the game becomes more exiting and harder (not to mension longer)

New Factions would make new systems a lot more interesting since you would really feel you were somewhere "new."

I think people would also love to have a faction that was their clan so they really felt like they had a home base/home territory.

Has anyone tried adding a new faction to the initialworld.ini, giving them a rating to all the other factions and adding a rating to it in all the other faction lists?

Ok, that works...just add a new faction at the bottom of the list..for the example, I created fl_n_grp (for Freelancer, neutral)

i.e.

[Group
nickname = fl_n_grp
ids_name = 0
ids_info = 0
ids_short_name = 0
rep = 0, li_n_grp
rep = 0, li_lsf_grp
rep = 0, li_p_grp
rep = 0, br_n_grp
rep = 0, br_p_grp
rep = 0, ku_n_grp
rep = 0, ku_p_grp
rep = 0, rh_n_grp
rep = 0, rh_p_grp
rep = 0, co_alg_grp
rep = 0, co_be_grp
rep = 0, br_m_grp
rep = 0, co_nws_grp
rep = 0, co_hsp_grp
rep = 0, co_ic_grp
rep = 0, co_khc_grp
rep = 0, co_kt_grp
rep = 0, rh_m_grp
rep = 0, co_me_grp
rep = 0, co_ni_grp
rep = 0, co_os_grp
rep = 0, co_rs_grp
rep = 0, co_shi_grp
rep = 0, co_ss_grp
rep = 0, co_ti_grp
rep = 0, co_vr_grp
rep = 0, fc_bd_grp
rep = 0, fc_b_grp
rep = 0, fc_c_grp
rep = 0, fc_fa_grp
rep = 0, fc_g_grp
rep = 0, fc_gc_grp
rep = 0, fc_h_grp
rep = 0, fc_j_grp
rep = 0, fc_lh_grp
rep = 0, fc_lr_grp
rep = 0, fc_lwb_grp
rep = 0, fc_m_grp
rep = 0, fc_ou_grp
rep = 0, fc_rh_grp
rep = 0, fc_or_grp
rep = 0, fc_u_grp
rep = 0, fc_x_grp
rep = 0, gd_gm_grp
rep = 0, fc_uk_grp
rep = 0, fc_n_grp
rep = 0, fc_ln_grp
rep = 0, fc_kn_grp
rep = 0, fc_rn_grp
rep = 0, fc_ouk_grp
rep = 0, fc_q_grp
rep = 0, fc_f_grp
rep = 0, gd_im_grp
rep = 0, gd_z_grp
rep = 0, gd_bh_grp
rep = 1, fl_n_grp

don't forget to add the rep of the faction to itself...otherwise, bad things might happen

then add
rep = 0, fl_n_grp
to every faction already in...it then creates a new faction

Obviously, you can make the rep for the different factions whatever you want, as long as you reciprocate the rep to that faction.. i.e. if you put:

rep = .23, gd_bh_grp

then you would need to go to the gd_bh_grp faction list and put

rep = .23, fl_n_grp

The only thing I haven't figured out is creating a new ids info and name to add a name and description for the new faction(s)...but that involves .dll editing and I can't do that yet...

Edited by - d8alus on 13-03-2003 07:44:35

Edited by - d8alus on 13-03-2003 07:45:37

This is very intressting but i aint working on it

Reason making a new faction should not be that hard.

But making it let it do things ...

First off it probably best to make 1 to 2 new systems that are controled by this new faction then you need to make npc chars in that systems and in the systems surrounding it so that that faction acctully does something it not hard to say that base or ship belongs to that faction but making also do things is kinda hard and much work and to be honest i dont feel like learning all that at this point i already had a hard time understaning making a entire new system and i still aint done yet.

i am able to add pretty much extras to the game but it is VERY time consuming and since i cant program i am hoping (like many other i think) on a good mod tool that is going to make it easier.

Greetz Nataku

OK...after a lot of cross referencing, I think I have deciphered what faction each of the codes stand for:

li_n_grp Liberty Navy
li_lsf_grp Liberty Security Force
li_p_grp Liberty Police
br_n_grp Britonian Navy
br_p_grp Britonian Police
ku_n_grp Kusari Navy
ku_p_grp Kusari Police
rh_n_grp Rhineland Navy
rh_p_grp Rhineland Police
co_alg_grp ALG Waste Disposal
co_be_grp Borderworld Exports
br_m_grp BMM
co_nws_grp Ageira Technologies
co_hsp_grp Gateway Shipping
co_ic_grp Interspace Commerce
co_khc_grp Daumann Heavy Construction
co_kt_grp Kishiro Technologies
rh_m_grp Kruger Minerals
co_me_grp Cryer Pharmaceuticals
co_ni_grp Synth Foods Inc
co_os_grp Orbital Spa and Cruise
co_rs_grp Republican Shipping
co_shi_grp Samura Industries
co_ss_grp Universal Shipping
co_ti_grp Planetform Inc
co_vr_grp Deep Space Engineering
fc_bd_grp Blood Dragons
fc_b_grp Bundschuh
fc_c_grp Corsairs
fc_fa_grp Farmers Alliance
fc_g_grp Gaians
fc_gc_grp Golden Crysantheums
fc_h_grp Hogosha
fc_j_grp Junkers
fc_lh_grp Lane Hackers
fc_lr_grp Liberty Rogues
fc_lwb_grp LWB
fc_m_grp Mollys
fc_ou_grp Outcasts
fc_rh_grp Red Hessians
fc_or_grp Order
fc_u_grp Unioners
fc_x_grp Xenos
gd_gm_grp Gas Mining Guild
fc_uk_grp Storyline group? ; These 8 groups seem only to
fc_n_grp Nomads? ; like/dislike each other
fc_ln_grp Liberty Nomads? ;The 4 storyline groups only hate the
fc_kn_grp Kusari Nomads? ;Nomads group
fc_rn_grp Rhineland Nomads? ;The nomad group hates everyone
fc_ouk_grp Storyline group? ;except the other 3 nomad groups
fc_q_grp Storyline group? ;The 3 nomad groups seem to have
fc_f_grp Storyline group? ;normal likes/dislikes
gd_im_grp Independent Miners Guild
gd_z_grp Zoners
gd_bh_grp Bounty Hunters

OK, the co_ are corporations, the fc_ are criminals. The navy/police forces are easy to figure out, as are the gd_ ones. The criminals I'm also sure of, as the names mostly match with the abbreviations. The 8 Unknown groups do not appear on the faction list ingame, leading me to belive that they are related to the SP storyline. The co_ ones I'm not exactly sure of though. A lot of the companies don't have a matching abbreviation at all, so I had to go off of which faction was friendly/hostile toward which other faction. But hey, if you're making a custom faction, you should be able to get some ideas of who to make friendly/hostile from this. Maybe someone will test these eventually to see if they all match up right.

DarkJackal

so is that it? its that simple ?

[edit
hmmmm, when i run the server with a new faction added, i try to leave manhattan and it crashes..... did you get the same problem? if so how did u fix it? :/

hmm, ill have a fiddle some more

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You just washed up here or something?

Edited by - RaK on 21-03-2003 17:19:28

It works by me.
But I have modified the empathy.ini and the faction_prob.ini in the data/missions folder,too. Only if you do that it is a realy faction. Because you can change their how they look, behave and how they change when you do missons for them or for other groups.