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MS Hoax & Aftermath like Tragedy of Hamlet

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Post Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:16 pm

MS Hoax & Aftermath like Tragedy of Hamlet

I've been reading through many of the serious and horrible posts back and forth at each other about this whole MS vs. Starfyre debacle. I have to say, it is much like the Tragedy of Hamlet. Internal feuds, approaching enemies, supposed madness, hostility & fits of rage.

Don't think yourselves unique by your anger. Just remember how it ended for Hamlet and his family, everyone dead.

This forum is like a family, without the dinners, the hugging or the drunk uncle, but it is still a common place where we come together in like interest. Don't let this hoax or whatever tear the site apart.

Let us quibble no longer. We are friends!

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My Humourous & True Lancers Reactor Plays with Real Posters as Characters in These Divine Comedies:
The Full & Complete Text of "Much Uba About Nothing"
The Full & Complete Text of "The Taming of the Psycho (Hey)"
&
The Full & Complete Text of "Zlothello"



Sir Spectre

.... Time passes too quickly to be enjoyed and too slowly to be endured.

EDIT: Just updating my links.

Edited by - Sir Spectre on 10-10-2003 02:04:40

Post Wed Oct 08, 2003 8:51 pm

From a person living in the Kingdom of Denmark: Amen!

Best Regards
Christian "Bargib" Koerner
Editor in Chief, The Lancers Reactor

Post Wed Oct 08, 2003 9:19 pm

to be honest i can't see why starfyre studios and MS are arguing in the first place

"Make it so Number One"
Captain Picard 'Star Trek the Next Generation'

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:44 am

Well, surest way to kill a comunity and game is to try and micromanage it and control every aspect.

Between the emails and the lawyers, it is amazing that CS, tfc, and Desert combat, natrual selection, Death match classic, and such ever got off the ground.

i see something fishy as the email was not signed by a "contact" person seems to vague to me.

but some corps are like that i guess.

to really get them mad make a version of Freelancer that will run on Linux

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 12:54 am

this is like my thead but i was pissed off when i posted it so.....

A note to fear factor: I STOPPED A MONTH AGO!!

"Turn left at fork in road......
In Soviet Russia, road forks you!"

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:20 am

whatever the case, reynen is gone now. personally, im a bit glad, as he was starting to just get on my nerves. some of the things he was saying made him sound like more of an attention whore than IVE been in the past :-P (how reynen mod was the first mod, so therefor it was automatically the start of everything, and this and that). i hope the guy doesn't kill himself though. he could work for a gaming company.

but to specter, not an amen. a double- amen

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:46 am

Hmm - don't think he will go.......and his current 'I planned all the posts here to start a frenzy off for a study into who supported, who really stole...etc' just strikes me as erm - false. I have worked with children, its a trait they exhibit. Something happens, you don't look great, furiously backpeddle the story claiming that you intended that outcome all along. His is slightly different as it shows how cleverly he managed to manipulate everyone. However, that isn't even my personal view as i said before, I don't care anymore . That is what just immeditatley struck me. - however, i am sure he is telling the truth
My grumble was over copyright, now however......i say copyright whatever he likes , i will just do what i do. It neither effects me or annoys me anymore.

I posted my mod with its parts in the mod announcement forum. I also stated at the end that if people think i owe them credit, step up and tell me/take a bite:
The poeple i am crediting are:
Wanderer
Nelphilm
Victor
Giskard
Of course MS/DA and the tool makers we all use!

One last thing however. I actually hope for some strange reason that his posts were all a horrible manipulative ploy of decietfulness.......cos if not, i think the person behind the posts is a dangerous nutter!!!! Some of those posts are offensive and attacking, as well as abusive, derogatory and threatening. Of course - that meant his libel claims against some were also carefully planned out as well - good job no-one wants to do the same in reverse.
However, considering it is apparently a play worthy of the almighty Sir spectrespeare himself- i think he should then appologise to the participants for his 'manipulation' of them......otherwise how can he hope people respect him or his work - and therefore for some not to steal it?

Chips
p.s - has he actually proved anyone to steal stuff from him? He never mentioned any names just bashed on about reynenmod alot.

How comes my paragraphs? People used to complain about how my posts were hard to read!!! Well - after my eyes were dazzled by BOLD format all the time, i am using it sparingly!

Oh - just edited this in.....its not worth another post for it. Anyone notice how Reynen edited alot of his posts hours after they were made?

Edited by - chips on 09-10-2003 04:06:42

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 2:57 am

that bold was the most annoying thing ive ever seen, save a few things here and there.

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:13 am

Yeah, well, when you run a psychology experiment, you also leave yourself wide open to analysis. Works both ways, that's the beauty of it.

Edited by - Nephilim on 09-10-2003 09:15:29

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:18 am

Nephilim:

Yeah, well, when you run a psychology experiment, you also leave yourself open to analysis. Works both ways, that's the beauty of it.


Is that what it comes down to: Reynen himself applied the hoax?


Sir Spectre

.... Time passes too quickly to be enjoyed and too slowly to be endured.

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:36 am

Oh, given that he was willing to polarize the community just to gauge people's support, I wouldn't put that kind of manipulation past him either.

Edited by - Nephilim on 09-10-2003 09:46:10

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:25 am

nice to see people are still insulting him, apparently he has even recieved death threats. HOW FUNNY DO YOU FIND THAT??

Just because he says he is leaving FL alone, which we have decided against, does not mean he will not look at this site, and post on it.

I cant belive how rude some of you are being

We are going to make TNG 2.0

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 11:32 am

so one of you sue me. i dare you. we have a freedom of speech, as long as we are not threatening him directly. the people threatening him with death could probably be sued or whatnot, but not the people simply making comments. why people would want to kill him im not sure, but some people are messed up like that. whatever, they can burn in hell when ther life is done. why reynen wants to threaten attacks im not sure. the guy really needs to count to ten and calm the hell down.

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 1:45 pm

@Duriel_LOP - Glad to hear you are continuing with TNG 2, some of the better news I’ve had this week.

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If there is anything more important than my ego around here, I want it caught and shot immediately ~ (Zaphod Beeblebrox - Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)

Post Thu Oct 09, 2003 3:43 pm

leagal cases or not, How would you like to answer the phone innocently one day and the person on the other end, threatens your life? Your parents would not be impressed, they would be horrified, it seems you do not care about this.

So there is free speech, but that doesnt mean insults are necessary, show me when he ever insulted you.

Some of this community seems to be in a group mentality

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