Well, in Wing Commander Privateer, a few systems had starfields like Freelancer, but they were disabled because in the more complicated systems, like New Constantinople, the computers of the time slowed down to much, and the game became unplayable.
There was, originally, a way to purchase every ship in the game, and more weapons than in the official release.
Again, the computers of the time couldn't handle as much as was originally planned.

In Privateer 2, The Darkening, it was originally set up so that you could get some ships from Joe the Bartender.
(Like the "Unknown" Talon ship.)
IIRC, it was removed because it required an additional 1.5 CD's, and they wanted to keep costs down, and felt that players didn't want to be swapping disks so often.

IIRC, the Wing Commander Academy was originally supposed to be part of one of the other games, but time, costs, and other considerations required that it be released by itself.

In WCIII, The Heart of the Tiger, there were several missions planned for the base where you refuel on your way to destroy Kilrah.
IIRC, they were removed because they required about 1/5th of another CD, and they didn't want to spend the money on it.

In Wing Commander IV, The Price of Freedom, there was originally a series of missions against the genetically engineered Dragon pilot, but they were removed due to save on the number of CD's required, and that they added little to the game.

Of course, some of the above may just be rumors, but as far as I know, are correct.

Watch your 6!

It sounds interesting pitty they didnt make into final version because of costs or thech limits. Baldurs Gate 2 has a mod thats called Unfinished Buisness that restores some quests and items that were not implemented or had invalid strings. Could something similar be done with lets say Privateer - WCP?

In WCP there should have been cloacks but my guess is that when the buggs could detect them with naked eye they became obsolete. So some of the dialouge is there as is the dvice(it showed up with ship editor). Second thing main caps ship guns were never made to use them althoug they should have and guns are in the file.

"history abhors a paradox"
"There’s a little going-away present, ’cause you’re going away — permanently!"
"Mess with the viper and you will get the fang"


Edited by - GreyViper on 9/20/2004 8:59:48 AM

One of the main problems with restoring those items to Privateer, and the reason for our mod, is that Privateer is a DOS game.
And, as such, it's already maxed out.
If you did add them, there's no machine in the world that could play it.
In order to restore them, you'd have to convert the entire game to Windows, and then it MIGHT work.
But then, you'd have to come up with some new graphics, and animations.
The Graphics for ship sales, and weapons, were removed.
As were the ship dealer's sales pitch animations.
Not to mention the fact that the voices were never even recorded for the sales pitches for the other ships.

Watch your 6!

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One of the main problems with restoring those items to Privateer, and the reason for our mod, is that Privateer is a DOS game.
And, as such, it's already maxed out.
If you did add them, there's no machine in the world that could play it.
In order to restore them, you'd have to convert the entire game to Windows, and then it MIGHT work.

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The armada engine was one step foward, but I guess it has the same problem. The second problem would be TRE files.
Is the source code opened for all to use or its still EA property.

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But then, you'd have to come up with some new graphics, and animations.
The Graphics for ship sales, and weapons, were removed.
As were the ship dealer's sales pitch animations.
Not to mention the fact that the voices were never even recorded for the sales pitches for the other ships.

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Yes and no, same animations for ship selling could be used just change of text. The problem would be the landing scens, weapon sell/buy changes. As for voices thats a small thing. Btw a good artist could crank up art for most things, its the coding that is the hard thing. If needed some animations could be copied from Strike Commander and revorked.
Any detail info on the weapons that were removed, what type?

"history abhors a paradox"
"There’s a little going-away present, ’cause you’re going away — permanently!"
"Mess with the viper and you will get the fang"

Well, I know that a some newsclips and some character scenes were removed from WC III the PC version, because they were put back in the Playstation version. Too bad, too. I never liked playing WC on PS1 and didn't want to play through to see the missing scenes.



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In WCP there is the shield killer weapon that Nephilm should use, but it has no effect in game play. It apers that most of the stuff there is half done.
*sigh*What I wouldnt give a game that has best features from I-WAR2, Freespace2, WCP & Privateer.

"history abhors a paradox"
"There’s a little going-away present, ’cause you’re going away — permanently!"
"Mess with the viper and you will get the fang"


Edited by - GreyViper on 9/25/2004 9:09:33 AM