They are illegal on most freelancer servers that I have played on, they are not tolerated at all on the two servers operated by the mercenary navy, we have server police especially becos i HATE them with a passion.

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glad u think that way. u r on a good list. i will make sure pirates r banned.

hmmm.... do they do that to every1 (ie. also some1 in an eagle/sabre/titan) or only by freighters??? if so, their just weak n00bs...

i had also 1 time that i must pay for leaving a planet... didn't payed and leaved the planet anyway... i had a banshee and they where with 4 vhf (n00bs).

and if they are real pirates, why they are by new tokyo where is also cops/navy flying around... i'm also a kind off pirates, but this sounds like food for my guns

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Actually, I protect n00bs. Then again, I have a Predator heavy fighter (Level 2 mod) and everyone tries to bypass me. They try to hunt me, then find out what I have and run.

sometimes it doesn't matter what ship u have, they will still strike. i.e. i have a titan and a pirate in a dragon attacked me

beware what u say. i already have a chip on my shoulder or whatever it's called

Pirates beware the Trader
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He will sort you out.

Some servers have "rules of engagement" for pirates, such as no dock camping, or being right outside a dockable station waiting for a player to leave, or no sitting outside planets or stations owned by the authorities in the system. The most important one I've seen is not killing another player for no reason, ie. killing for the sake of killing, without any demands for cargo, credits, or even assisting them in a raid or two. A few servers I've been to even had cloaked pirates, which pretty much gives them all the edge to cause trouble.

The good servers tend to have rules like this to allow PC pirates to be pirates, while not letting them run around causing grief to everyone. You just gotta go out and find them. Worse case, play on a server that doesn't allow pvp at all.

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Must admit, i think he has met "pirates", rather than the proper roleplaying pirate type. If they are roleplaying the roles, which can be fun, then you give a demand at least, cause since you cannot pick up anything off of dead players, the idea is only to kill them if the continue to run/fight when facing imminent destruction (ie, very little hull, etc etc). The idea is that players drop the cargo, but they never seem to, might be cause they usually want you to drop the lot, or pay stupidly high fees.....which is ridiclous. Make it reasonable, no more cargo than your fighter can hold, or money to fit the time (ie, if its a drom full with diamonds, then 50-80k is fine.......about 1/4 of profit, or 70 cargo).

I understand that a few mods are raising the stakes for "death"! If so, then the pirate role would make a bit more since. Players that don't drop cargo or pay up in most FL games only lose their cargo and respawn at last base if they are destroyed. So what is the point of droping your cargo if you would only lose it anyway, I'd rather take a chance and try to run or fight. But if you lose alot more, like your ship, weaps, shields and money when you die, then it's worth paying up to the pirates.

Just a thought.

Sanic

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Heya. I run a pirate clan. Been doing so for ages now. 18 months.

Here's another two cents -

My observation is that there are lot of people who wanna "be" pirates...they wear pirate tags, act like it...but when you get right down to it, they still dock on Manhattan, and fly through Liberty unmolested.

Pirate is an RP thing - what you are talking about is pretty much just general dockcamping and tolling. RP doesn't happen on open forums. RP happens online.
But these wannabes' give me the SHhhhhhhhh.............

Tonight I met a guy on a quiet server. When she pumps, she pumps, but as we all know there are the quiet times...the times of no-sleep crazies and strange foreign madmen. This guy was sitting at Rochester, making his money quietly. Those who know the trick that I mean, know what I mean.
He had sat there for 10 hours. And on this server, Liberty is a no-PK zone....

Previously this same gentleman had destroyed one of our droms, unwarned attack. We had 3 in space in convoy - the first was caught napping (in space and on the phone), the second was a new guy who freaked and ran for dock (his drom was empty - all were), and the third launched an attack. Fair enough - my man could have kept a better watch. I wasn't online at the time. Otherwise he wouldn't have come close.

This Eagle attacked in Sigma 19. No hailing. Fair enough. If you can't take the heat, get out of the fire. Combat is combat.

Now he belongs to a "pirate" clan. We make our money in the PK zone, and this guy just sat on his big fat drom at Rochester in a neutral rep. It's how their clan makes money.

He refused to leave and settle the score - and it was just the two of us online.
His loot had been accumulating over a period of 10 hours. My Dagger destroyed it in less than two seconds. Liberty is a no PK zone.

He had destroyed a drom of mine clan - targetted my clans' economy. Mine was empty. Not that he knew that. I targetted his clans' economy. His "stash" was worth millions. I think it was a waste of time - how can you protect your assetts in a non-PK environment, if you ain't gunna hold on to it?

Call me insensitive. But there is no WAY you will catch me living in a no-PK zone, doing absolutely nothing to earn my cash, at no risk of loss of life or wing. I gave him due warning in my own way - dropped all the hints on chat, all the way from Trafalgar to Rochester.

To be a pirate takes style. It doesn't matter how good you are. Its' how you play the game. I despise those that sully our name.

Slake.
Clan Leader.
The Fringe Raiders.
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Who needs them?

Depends, just like Lane Hacker, Blooddragon giving u hospitality in SP campaign

Somyimes I really hate some pirates killin noobies with VHF ship. But the otherside MOST pirates helping noobs by lending money or giving some mission to gain some money & fun which is enlightened me to be with them.

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no pirates, no cops, no hunters on the server sounds like a perfect server, but it makes the server also uninteresting for playing all the time on that server... i had once soom n00b who killed my wingmen in a no-pk system (new york) while we had both a defender and he flew a titan...

we both had also a few vhfs in div systems, and while more people came online the hunt for him became greater... they helped us by secure a few systems with lead to omicron theta, some helped us to hunt him...

he ran into cambridge system (i was almost at his pos), flew into the tau systems and flew to the jh to cambridge, 2 others secured the other jh and the jg... i asked some1 to go to my location and when he was their i entered cambridge and looked for the baselist online... and after that i knew where he was sitting (the only crim base), he had war with cops (co'z they where shooting at him), he escaped from me in bering while i was being attacked by pirate npc...

when i was at the pirate base i asked the others to join my possition (so their was no escape... he sat their a few hours (while we destroyed all incoming pirate npc...) i think he never game again on the server, co'z he woulded hat to run, run and run only...

@ slake,
i gonna be this evening on the server (from about 19.00 GMT) and look how the a little around, and get the dagger...

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Just one second after the birth of the Universe, space was flooded with particles and over the next 300 million years stars and galaxies began to evolve into the kind of cosmic landscape that we recognise today. But there's one big problem. We shouldn't really be here. People, planets, stars, galaxies should all be impossible dreams. In theory, nothing should exist.

thx for your replies. now i can see both sides of the story which is very interesting.

I use an Eagle with nomad blasters and salamancaMkII's. Pirates don't bother me. Rather, they HIDE from me. I've adopted role of "noob protector," where I escort noobs to their destinations for Their alliegence.

if someone attacks me, or picks on a noob, I just smoke 'em, no exceptions.

My server places bounties on repeat noob killers, so If you have proof, you get 50,000 creds. This has made me a "Bounty Hunter." lol

Don't get me wrong, I've done my share of pirating, but I started making many enemies... and well, EVERYBODY made it a goal to take me down.

so..... I only pirate other pirates, and non-noobs.

(I give the noobs stolen money.)

Edited by - Gin-Kasai on 4/13/2004 7:41:44 PM