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We humbly ask that this stuff not be copied from TNG

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Post Fri Oct 10, 2003 11:13 pm

We humbly ask that this stuff not be copied from TNG

Put simply I ask this from all the community.

If you see a feature in TNG that you like and wish to use it, PLEASE email me and let me know. I don't have a problem sharing however I do ask that if you borrow stuff from TNG i humby just ask for some credit to be put in the readme.

Most of the stuff I don't mind sharing however, there are a few features I would like to preserve for only TNG to make it unique. If I were to give everything away some people would possibly just make a clone of TNG.

So with that, THIS is the stuff we would like NOT to be copied from TNG.

1: TNG specific systems, Nexus, Sol, Vorlon, Mimbari, Centuari, Shadow, The Void (Ancients) etc...

2: TNG specific ships designed by Spawn, Hadryon, and CaptainOblivious, these include ships from Freespace 2, Homeworld class ships, Wing Commander, & Bab5, and all unique class ships. We will be happy to supply a detailed list once we are finished.

3: Duriel's super system

4: Spawn's artwork & Duriels movie clips

5: Bobthedog's intro scripts

6: Certain equipment (house guns, anti-matter torp, & race specific weapons going in 2.0)

7: Our costumes for the various characters.

Other then that we don't really have a problem, we just feel that we need to keep certain things unique to TNG. Again all we ask is that if you do use something from TNG, then please just give us credit.

Reynen Starfyre
Project Leader: Starfyre Studios
Freelancer: The Next Generation


Edited by - Reynen on 11-10-2003 00:49:33

Post Sat Oct 11, 2003 1:25 am

of course, you can do like Caid and rip models and stuff straight from the game (no offense either) or you can do like Spawn and remodel/retexture them. just don't use OUR models please.

Also, you can add me to the list up there... I may add a ship to the mod if I get around to finishing it up

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Check out what I'm doing for Reynen's Mod @ my website!

Post Sat Oct 11, 2003 9:21 am

Done! but i have to close the other one in the FL General Editing - no cross-posting policy.

Post Sat Nov 08, 2003 2:53 pm

Hi me here, im no expert in modding, but i do like TNG and the way in which you are progressing, and rather than asking you too add stuff in you may not wish to add, I would like to know if i can take current versions of tng and add into those bits I would like for my own personal server, ofcourse I will be more than happy to pass credit back to TNG, as soon as my WWW is sortde out

If you could send me any documentation which you think would help me in my quest to adding items, like factions/bases/weps etc then please do.

I can be contacted @ [email protected]

All the best and may our work continue

Ra5oR

Post Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:21 am

I would also like to humbly request that nobody steals my attitude, which is TNG-specific and copyrighted by the orange penguins.

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Post Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:24 pm

Ok... what about the otherstuff?

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Post Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:15 am

define 'other stuff'

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Post Thu Feb 12, 2004 7:33 am

Hmm maybe enabling the navmap to display the New York Happy Lands --> New York Badlands? I didn't fancy ISWing into the badlands so I modded my download to identify the hole. That would be ok rite?

Post Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:41 pm

I love how people just blantly ignored this section.

Editted so not to cause any more fights.

Notice the date of the original posting.

We had all this stuff back in OCTOBER 2003!!!!

Reynen Starfyre
Project Leader: Starfyre Studios
Freelancer: The Next Generation


Edited by - reynen on 3/29/2004 8:39:43 PM

Post Fri Mar 26, 2004 9:06 am

Well Reynen - maybe correct me if i am wrong:

TNG specific systems, Nexus, Sol, Vorlon, Mimbari, Centuari, Shadow, The Void (Ancients) etc... Methought those were all from a TV series or from the game of Freelancer itself. If it is inspired by the Television series, than i doubt you could claim this to be your sole possesion really. However, you and Michael Dan are capable at defining this yourselves. However, do you imply that he copied your systems? Or just the names? Cause if its the names, am affraid that it really is a weak link........

2: TNG specific ships designed by Spawn, Hadryon, and CaptainOblivious, these include ships from Freespace 2, Homeworld class ships, Wing Commander, & Bab5, and all unique class ships. We will be happy to supply a detailed list once we are finished.

Furry Muff, if they were made by Spawn and Hadryon, and Captain Oblivious, and of course, he had not used them before, then its a good point. He should not use their models unless they gave permission!
However, I think its fair to say that if you are claiming no-one can use ships from the Wing Commander/Homeworld/Bab5 Series/Games at all (whether made by others or not), then I think you should seriously reconsider your perspective.

3: Duriel's super system - I didn't know anyone had seen this - let alone use it.

Bobs intro scripts? Same again, didn't know he used Bobs intro Scripts. If you mean introscript modding.........erm, well - would you have not made new ships if the first person to put a new ship in FL said no-one else could?

Not seen/ heard of Duriels intro vids/clips - so dunno about this one.
Same goes for costumes - not seen anyone using your own designed ones, but also not aware you had one i must admit.

I am also 100% unaware of people stealing the house guns, but if you say they are using your house guns, then i guess you checked.

HOwever, from that list i am guessing your only really talking about points 1 & 2, and unless he has stolen Spawns and co's shipwork without their permission, then i really don't see what you can claim as TNG specific.

However, that is my view, please correct me on details, cause although i am heavily involved in the community, i don't download others mods much at all......so i am unaware just who has "stolen" what.

Post Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:13 pm

However, I think its fair to say that if you are claiming no-one can use ships from the Wing Commander/Homeworld/Bab5 Series/Games at all (whether made by others or not), then I think you should seriously reconsider your perspective.

I think this point in particular is referring to the models and skins themselves - not the concepts. Sure, other mods could have HW ships, but they should be putting the work in themselves on the ships rather than grabbing others - unless of course they've been given permission. Just a clarification.

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Post Wed Apr 07, 2004 12:33 am

guys, email this between yourselves. You're not winning or losing any fans here with this bickering. We all are grateful for the time and effort you each put in to making the incredible mods you've done. Don't spoil it in this community by bickering about who started what and who owns what. Work that out between yourselves in a private way. Having us read this isn't helping anyone in any way ,shape, or form. Thanks! Boscoe

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