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Problems with my Router!

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Post Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:23 am

Problems with my Router!

In the chat room, Kahar suggested i allow my router to accept WAN requests, but how do I do that?

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Post Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:22 am

One word :

Google.

Post Tue Mar 11, 2003 8:47 pm

That... doesn't help...

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Post Tue Mar 11, 2003 9:10 pm

Which Router

Post Tue Mar 11, 2003 11:33 pm

I have a Microsoft router that distributes our DSL conection to two other computers. It hooks up to our external DSL modem. I still don't know how to change it to accept WAN requests. I checked the router utility, but it didn't say anything about that...

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Post Tue Mar 11, 2003 11:44 pm

That feaure is a Linksys setting, I doubt your Router has it. Can your external IP be pinged from the Internet? If so, then you are ok. If not, then see if you manual states how to enable pinging.

Post Wed Mar 12, 2003 12:04 am

Is this your Router/Base Station?

http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/broad ... ation.aspx

If so, then check this:

Block Ping Commands
You can configure the firewall to discard network ping commands.
A ping command is like a short conversation between a device on
the WAN and your base station. When a device on the WAN sends
a ping command, the base station responds.
When you block ping commands, you are telling the base station
not to respond to a ping initiated from the WAN. This security
mechanism hides your network from hackers who might be pinging
random IP addresses to see where they get a response. A response
verifies your network location, and a hacker can then use this
information to send malicious communications to your network.
In general, it is a good idea to discard ping commands sent from
the WAN. The only circumstances in which blocking ping
commands might present a problem are:
When your ISP needs to ping your network to ensure that the
connection is still valid.
When you or another person needs to check your Internet
connection from an external network. For example, you might
want to do this to make sure that you can access your Web
server.
When you are playing games on the Internet, and other players
need to verify your network location and connection speed.
To block ping commands
1. Open the Base Station Management Tool, and then click
Security.
2. On the Security menu, click Firewall Settings.
3. Select the Discard pings check box.
4. Click Apply to save your changes.

Since you want to Enable Pings, you don't want to select the Discard Pings check box.

Post Wed Mar 12, 2003 1:01 am

...Won't that leave the computer I'm using wide open to hackers? If a hacker pings this computer and he finds out that I'm online and I have a firewall, can't he find a way to get around it? I want to be able to play this online, but not if it means exposing my computer's information. If I had my own computer, sure, I'd enable it, but it's my dad's, and he doesn't want some schmoe hacking into our computer. Why they'd want to do that is beyond me.

EDIT: Also, if all of you guys have PING requesting enabled, how come you guys aren't getting hacked?

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Edited by - Rogue Leader on 12-03-2003 01:14:00

Post Wed Mar 12, 2003 2:27 am

Just because you allow pings doesnt mean you get hacked. And if they can get around your firewall, then it's time for a new one.

Your firewall is built into your router. If you only have those ports forwarded to your server's IP, then you are safe. Just dont put it on the DMZ.

Post Wed Mar 12, 2003 3:03 am

Really... Well, I suppose that settles it then. Thanks guys! I suppose this thread can be locked or deleted now...

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Post Wed Mar 12, 2003 3:50 am

WAIT! I STILL have problems! It still won't connect!

Post Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:03 am

Your initial post never said anything about connection problems. Do you have the ports forwarded?

Post Wed Mar 12, 2003 2:04 pm

I have no clue. All I know is that I cannot connect to the global server, and I hoped that allowing Ping requests would fix that. It didn't...

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Post Wed Mar 12, 2003 3:48 pm

People are far too paranoid about being hacked.
If someone realy wants to hack your box they will, whatever you put up to stop them.
I have seen a webpage that can format your hard drive, you gonna block port 80?
A real basic firewall like Tiny Personal Firewall or even Zone Alarm will deter most script kiddies as it attempts to hide you from internet users by blocking ping requests.

As to the router problem, I have a Linksys router and run several servers for gaming, irc, ftp etc with no problems. Justhave to forward the correct ports to the correct IP addy.
Freelancer uses 2302-2304 UDP if I remember correctly.

I have a linksys router with Tiny PF2 install on all workstations as far as I know I have never been hacked.

Best way to check your security is to get a friend to scan you for open ports. You can get a good freeware tool called Grims Ping to do this. Primarily a very basic hackers/pub builders tool. It will let you scan a range of IP addys for open ports. Dont go scanning half the internet or your ISP will probably ban your ass. Just get someone you trust to scan your IP from port 1 to 65000. It will take a LONG time but you will know what ports are open.
You will probably have more than you think...

Best policy for the paranoid is close EVERYTHING and then just open what you need.





Edited by - Bambi on 12-03-2003 15:52:26

Post Wed Mar 12, 2003 4:07 pm

You need to forward ports 2302-2400 UDP to your internal IP address. The instructions on how to do this should be in your router manual.

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