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Startracker escorts with impossible configurations?

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Post Fri Apr 04, 2003 7:02 am

Startracker escorts with impossible configurations?

I've been killing House Company ships to even out my standing, so for the first time I'm actually noticing what these folks are armed with.

I was astounded when I blew up a Startracker , and picked up a CLASS 6 FLASHPOINT LASER from the wreckage. I discovered that ALL Startracker freight escorts in the Bretonian system have this configuration.

Needless to say, I killed another one so I could grab a pair for my Hawk, which is coincidentially the HIGHEST weapon class my Hawk can handle.

As for the Startracker, only in fantasy land do they go to six. OR do they?

Edited by - defaultuser on 04-04-2003 08:02:10

Edited by - defaultuser on 04-04-2003 08:04:55

Post Fri Apr 04, 2003 6:35 pm

You should scan NPCs more often. Those Liberty Navy Defenders are armed with higher class weapons than the Defender is suppose to handle. They must have some special government issue models. Upon scanning the model numbers are identical. But a visual check also confirms some differences, the tail for example.

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Cheezwiz
Free Spirit of Elite

EDIT: Fixed Sig

Edited by - Cheezwiz on 04-04-2003 19:37:31

Post Fri Apr 04, 2003 8:00 pm

That's only in SP Cheezwiz, Juni's Defender is different. The normal NPC ships just cheat.

Post Fri Apr 04, 2003 9:59 pm

NPC and certain playable ships have different variants. You (playing without hacks and .ini mods, anyway) only have access to the most basic of the variants, but the computer can have any of the variants. Hull HP, maximum weapon class, and other statistics increase with NPC ship variant level. Would someone else please go buy the FL guide...

"If I wanted your damned opinion, I'da beaten it out of you."

Edited by - Sudden Death on 04-04-2003 23:00:41

Post Sat Apr 05, 2003 1:27 am

Strat guides are for lamers.

Basic information about the ship variants like that should have been in the paper-thin manual, anyways.

Post Sat Apr 05, 2003 2:37 am

Agreed, Strategy Guides are pointless.

Having so much information at your fingertips takes the fun out the game. I'd rather have a much more limited but free supply of info like I can get online.

Anyway, if it's some super-special MODIFIED model, why does it just say "Startracker"?

If somebody's driving a Startracker TYPE-R, they're gonna flaunt it

Post Sat Apr 05, 2003 7:22 am

And the Rheinlanders in the early SP missions uses level 2-3 stuff, big deal. It doesn't have to make sense.

Nog

Post Sat Apr 05, 2003 9:38 pm

As far as I can tell, only Military ships have weapons that seems to outclass the ships. EG: Ive seen plenty of Police and Naval fighters have weapons up to 3 levels higher than they should, but I've never seen, say, Corsair or Hessian so hopped up. I believe it is the difference between Civilian and Military models. Kind of like the 2003 Hummer. Now severly stunted compared to the military version.

Post Sat Apr 05, 2003 10:39 pm

Nog is correct.

The Military and Police organizations always get the better models.

Like in the Civilian world (Unless you are Arnold Swarzzenegger) you can't legally by a Hum-Vee with the .50 Cal Machine Gun mount on it....It's Military ONLY.

The US Police get the Ford (and some other manufacturers) Crown Victoria and LTD cars with a "Police Package" that increases top end speed, and Horse Power, gas milage...etc. There is a "Civilian" version of it, but it doesn't increase performance.

For the Police, they must have vehicles that can outperform standard civillian cars.

It appears that Freelance has taken this into affect.

I have seen Startrackers take on Corsairs that have bigger and badder ships (M3 and M7 classes) and come away winners...Limping winners mind you..

It is perfectly conceivable to see an Uber Startracker registered to a Police or Navy organizaion in the game...It's reality. Even the major Shipping companies may have uber ships too...(Granted...Not compared to any of our ships we run in the game)

Here's an interesting thought....Give the Liberty Navy a M10 Class Titan, with C10 shields and weaps...They MIGHT last longer in a fight....

-Arg



Something Awful

Nog

Post Sat Apr 05, 2003 10:45 pm

Well, I was really talking about the removal of the Turbo-charger and high end suspension in the 2003 Hummer but, you got the idea.

Post Sat Apr 05, 2003 10:47 pm

That makes sense, but if the Navy sends civilians on combat missions, they should make combat ships available to them

Post Sun Apr 06, 2003 1:19 am

Too bad the olice in Freelancer don't stand a chance against the top-end criminal ships. I wonder how the world would be different if that were the case in reality...


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Post Sun Apr 06, 2003 1:21 am

"The simplest answer is often the right one." Who said that again?

You guys are looking into this too much. By your logic, I shouldn't be able to get high level ships in ANY houses, let alone the Rheinlanders, who are probably the most paranoid of the lot. Also, why would Liberty send wave after wave of level 1 fighters at you during your escape from Manhattan if they had better ships in tow? I've said this so many times on this forum, I think I'm going to be sick: It doesn't have make sense. These things are designed to drive the game, usually with no good reason behind it.

Post Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:04 am

Go to Freeport 9 and scan a dromadary.
Level 8 Shields....

Post Sun Apr 06, 2003 1:23 pm

just a little piece of advice.. the Strat guide is worthless. i bought it cuz it supposedly had info on everything out the wazoo. (read typical strat guide hype)
in actuallity it passed of common sense as advanced tactics.
it has some good reference pages such as commodity pricing for every commodity at every base, factions, ship stats, and of course, the walkthru.
but there is nothing in the book that can't be found here for free.
it's more cost effective to print out a dozen or so pages than to buy the start guide by sybex

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