Well you chose a hard one with lots of hardpoints missing lol.

Basic problem:- Hp_type = Hp_gun, ....

This will mount any normal (Class1-10) gun or turret on those. So when you launch I think this is causing the cheat detect because the cheat engine is looking for the wepon class to match the hardpoint class. Hardpoints need to be called hp_gun_special_1 etc. in your shiparch.ini file like below:-
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hp_type = hp_gun_special_10, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03, hp_1_04, Hp_1_05, Hp_1_06
hp_type = hp_gun_special_9, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03, hp_1_04, Hp_1_05, Hp_1_06
hp_type = hp_gun_special_8, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03, hp_1_04, Hp_1_05, Hp_1_06
hp_type = hp_gun_special_7, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03, hp_1_04, Hp_1_05, Hp_1_06
hp_type = hp_gun_special_6, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03, hp_1_04, Hp_1_05, Hp_1_06
hp_type = hp_gun_special_5, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03, hp_1_04, Hp_1_05, Hp_1_06
hp_type = hp_gun_special_4, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03, hp_1_04, Hp_1_05, Hp_1_06
hp_type = hp_gun_special_3, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03, hp_1_04, Hp_1_05, Hp_1_06
hp_type = hp_gun_special_2, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03, hp_1_04, Hp_1_05, Hp_1_06
hp_type = hp_gun_special_1, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03, hp_1_04, Hp_1_05, Hp_1_06
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If you want to mount turrets use the following format...
<pre><font size=1 face=Courier>
hp_type = hp_turret_special_9, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03
hp_type = hp_turret_special_8, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03
hp_type = hp_turret_special_7, hp_1_01, hp_1_02, hp_1_03
... etc
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Other problems:-
You don't have a shield mount, if you want one you need to make a new hardpoint in the ship .3ds file called HpShield01, it can be located at 0, 0, 0.

Then you can add this to shiparch.ini to use a shield...
<pre><font size=1 face=Courier>
shield_link = l_elite_shield01, HpMount, HpShield01
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_10, HpShield01
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_9, HpShield01
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_8, HpShield01
hp_type = hp_elite_shield_special_7, HpShield01
...etc.
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To be even better, you can also copy the .3ds file and save it as a .cmp instead, and then rename the Hardpoints properly to HpWeapon01, HpWeapon02 etc. and HpTurret01, HpTurret02 etc., add the HpShield01, and you also need one called HpTractor_Source to mount your tractor.

Then you need to make an entry in goods.ini listing the engine, scanner, tractor, power, shield, and any weapons it will be sold with. It should look something like this one for my gunboat:-
<pre><font size=1 face=Courier>
[Good
nickname = ku_gunboat_hull
category = shiphull
ship = ku_gunboat
price = 1573200
ids_name = 237030
item_icon = ships\kusari\ku_gunship\ku_gunship.3db
[Good
nickname = ku_gunboat_package
category = ship
hull = ku_gunboat_hull
archetype = ku_gun_ship
addon = gunship_power, internal, 1
addon = ge_s_scanner_01, internal, 1
addon = ge_s_tractor_01, internal, 1
addon = sfx_rumble_gunvessel, internal, 1
addon = ge_kg_engine_01, internal, 1
addon = shield01_mark08_gunboat, HpShield01, 1
addon = ku_gunship_missile_turret01, HpTurret_k4_1, 1
addon = ku_gunship_missile_turret01, HpTurret_k4_2, 1
...etc
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Note that the turret hardpoints on the Kusari gunboat have different names, go with the ones in yours.

Roleplay: - the art of self-deceipt!

Thanks for the reply. Perhaps a little more detail is necessary. I have all capships working this way without any problems. The reason I have it set up the way I do is so that the guns come with the ship and can not be mounted/unmounted. The guns that are supposed to be used with the ship have the line hp_gun_type = hp_gun added to them. It appears that the problem is that the old guns aren't being recognized as being unmountable there.

This setup works with ALL capships except for the nomad gunboat and the nomad battleship. I'm wondering if perhaps the ship's HPs for weapons aren't really weapons HPs. I'll have to look at that.

Robo

I dunno if this will help or not, but try duplicating the ship and giving it a different nickname; eg. player_no_gunboat. This is how I originally got my Capital Ships to be pilotable, though I was pretty in-experienced at the time and maybe (read: probably) did something else wrong. Worth a shot though, as I use those same hardpoints on my NG and have no problems. I've also never had any problems with hp_gun or hp_fighter_shield_generator, both of which I utilize.

It's been so long I think i've forgotten how to mod
Do the nomad guns you've got mounted have weapon_good.ini entries?

Scrap that, put on some liberty lasers - the bog standard boring ones - something li_gun01 or whatever it is (check in the ini files, get the right nickname) and then try.

if it still occurs, something else is at fault... if it's not occuring, check whether the weapons have entries in weapons_goods.ini file or something?

I dunno

This happens regardless of which ship you use or which guns it has mounted. It's also limited to these two ships.

I'm at a loss.

Did you try my suggestion of a different ship nickname (look above)? That IS how I fixed this issue. =P

Edit: Could you post the goods.ini entry for the ship? If there's something in that that isn't normally sold at the base, that would cause a cheat-kick (the exception seems to be lights/scanners/engines/etc.)

Edited by - fox Unit 01 on 8/24/2007 1:13:38 PM

The goods.ini was the problem. For some reason I had removed the guns being mounted in the package from the goods.ini file in another section of the mod that helped reduce cheats from spawning. Once I figured that out everything was fine.

Thanks for the input.