If money is no object, which ships are worthwhile?

Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:33 pm by Yumiko

There are many ships in the game. However, if money is no object, then many of them are not worth flying due to there being another ship that is better in all aspects (except cost).

Which ships are worthwhile when money is no object? I can think of:

Eagle - The most manueverable VHF. It's even more manueverable than some HFs and LFs.

Titan - The most survivable VHF. It has massive hull points.

Sabre - The most damaging VHF. Its turret fires forward, while the Eagle and Titan's turrets do not.

Drake - An LF, the most manueverable ship in the game.

Dromedary - A freighter with decent combat capabilities and the largest cargo hold in the game.

Humpback - It has almost as much cargo space as the Dromedary, with its weapons being one class higher, 37% more shields, and 61% more hull. However, its manueverability is only half as much, meaning forward weapons (especially missile launchers) may be useless much of the time, and it will get hit more making the higher shields/hull have less overall benefit.

Have I missed any ships?

Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:33 pm by Symbiont One

Drone - Same as dromedary in hull and shield. Better Turret placement.
Too bad about the small cargo-hold.

Sat Feb 21, 2004 1:41 am by ~Corsair#01~

The Eagle is nowhere near as maneouverable as a LF and the humpback has a LOT less cargo space than the Dromedary.
Other than that, you've pretty much got it right.

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Edited by - Corsair#01 on 2/21/2004 12:02:10 PM

Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:12 am by tylium

the dagger is the best Lf i can make it trough class 35 misions an higher in an unmodded game

Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:21 am by {Corsairs}Commander Gsk

How can a dagger survive lvl 35 missions? It is so weak, but I guess its maneuverable. I like the drone as the best freighter in the game because its very maneuverable, it has an average haul and stronger weps and shields than a drom. For a VHF, I like the sabre. Its as maneuverable as the Eagle and it has a forward pointing turret. The titan is slow. It can be an easy target for a group of nomads or level 20 pilots and above.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Sat Feb 21, 2004 4:47 am by Yumiko

The Eagle is nowhere near as maneouverable as a LF

I read that the Eagle has a manueverability of 80. If my data is correct, then the only LFs that have higher manueverability than Eagle are Starflier (95), Patriot (90) and Drake (100).

and the humpback has a LOT less cargo space than the Dromedary.

Isn't it Humpback (250) and Dromedary (275)?

the dagger is the best Lf i can make it trough class 35 misions an higher in an unmodded game

Isn't the Drake better than the Dagger in every aspect? It has more firepower, more armor, and I think it's also more manueverable (apparently Dagger turns at "70" while Drake turns at "100" ).

I like the drone as the best freighter in the game because its very maneuverable, it has an average haul and stronger weps and shields than a drom.

I thought the Drone is identical to the Dromedary (shields, armor, weapons, turn rate) except:

(1) The Drone has one more turret and one less gun.
(2) The Dromedary has 100 more cargo space.

Edited by - Yumiko on 2/21/2004 4:46:52 AM

Edited by - Yumiko on 2/21/2004 4:48:23 AM

Sat Feb 21, 2004 12:05 pm by ~Corsair#01~

I thought the Humpback had 200... Ah, well, my mistake. Or yours...?
Anyway that doesn't make sense about the Eagle. How the hell is the Eagle more maneouverable than a hawk?
PS. Where do get your information? You might have interpreted it wrong.

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Edited by - Corsair#01 on 2/21/2004 12:08:09 PM

Sat Feb 21, 2004 12:09 pm by [steel]

falcon even the toughest missions are too easy with anything more but put a shield off a titan on it

Sat Feb 21, 2004 2:51 pm by Yumiko

Anyway that doesn't make sense about the Eagle. How the hell is the Eagle more maneouverable than a hawk?
PS. Where do get your information? You might have interpreted it wrong.

Here is where I got turning rate information:
http://www.forumplanet.com/3DActionPlan ... id=1072100

It says Eagle manuevers at 80, and Hawk manuevers at 75 (higher is better).

Sat Feb 21, 2004 3:33 pm by NukeIt

The Eagle is most definitely NOT more maneuverable than an LF. It isn't even the most maneuverable VHF; the Hammerhead and (in SP) the Anubis turn faster. Most, if not all, HF's are more maneuverable, and I'm positive that every single one of the LF's are as well. Essentially the only things which are NOT more maneuverable than the Eagle are the Sabre, the Titan, and all the freighters. Which amounts to...8 ships that it can out-turn.

The Drake is somewhat overpowered for an LF- having better stats in ALL areas, even turning, than lower-level ships, something which almost never happens.

The Dagger has the most guns for an LF, having a forward firing turret like it's big brother, the Sabre. That means it can mount an additional shield-buster weapon, which makes it a good missile platform.

There is only a cargo difference of 25 between the Dromedary and Humpback. The Dromedary, while weaker in shields and hull, is actually somewhat better in combat, since it has the ability to dodge some of the enemy fire. The Humpback, being somewhat more durable, fares better in irradiated areas, but can't dodge a damn thing. Your choice.

I've taken a certain liking to the Stiletto, but the Falcon would probably be slightly superior(the Falcon being one class higher, and approximately as maneuverable).

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Sat Feb 21, 2004 4:54 pm by Yumiko

The Eagle is most definitely NOT more maneuverable than an LF. It isn't even the most maneuverable VHF; the Hammerhead and (in SP) the Anubis turn faster. Most, if not all, HF's are more maneuverable, and I'm positive that every single one of the LF's are as well. Essentially the only things which are NOT more maneuverable than the Eagle are the Sabre, the Titan, and all the freighters. Which amounts to...8 ships that it can out-turn.

So my source for turning data is wrong, then? Does anyone know a good source for turning data? I saw some topic on this forum, but it had three confusing numbers for each ship that people didn't understand.

The Dagger has the most guns for an LF, having a forward firing turret like it's big brother, the Sabre. That means it can mount an additional shield-buster weapon, which makes it a good missile platform.

The class of the Dagger's guns is only 3344/4 though, while the Drake has 6655. Wouldn't the Drake do more damage?

The Dromedary, while weaker in shields and hull, is actually somewhat better in combat, since it has the ability to dodge some of the enemy fire. The Humpback, being somewhat more durable, fares better in irradiated areas, but can't dodge a damn thing.

I wonder if the Humpback can use its superior firepower to destroy enemies quickly. It has 77/677766 guns, meaning it could mount dual Lancer Misiles, along with 3 Debilitator Turrets and 3 Angelito Turret Mk II. The guns could take down an enemy's shields quickly, and then the missiles finish the enemy off. It might be difficult to get the missile launchers pointed at the enemy due to the Humpback's horrible manueverability, though. Also, missiles can sometimes blow each other up, but in practice I find that not to be too bad (with a Dromedary and dual Catapult launchers).

Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:00 pm by NukeIt

The Drake would do more damage, yes.

I would never trust a Humpback in a large fight. It just turns too slow- it even has problems when autodocking at some bases because it cannot turn fast enough to get into the docking port. I don't mind losing one gun/shield/power class and a bit of armor for roughly double the turn rate- it doesn't matter since almost every shot will hit you in a Humpback, while you may be able to evade most if not all of it in a Drom.

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Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:52 pm by J Dawg

@ Yumiko, I beleive those figures are turning radius, not turning speed. Correct me if im wrong but that should make the smaller numbers (and therefore the dagger) better, right?

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Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:02 pm by Yumiko

@ Yumiko, I beleive those figures are turning radius, not turning speed. Correct me if im wrong but that should make the smaller numbers (and therefore the dagger) better, right?

I don't think smaller numbers can be better, because the Humpback (which turns awfully slow) is 25, while the Starflier (which turns fast) is 95.

I'm thinking that list might just be wrong.

Sun Feb 22, 2004 10:43 pm by Neo_Kuja

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I've seen over 100 of these, and they all turn into spamfests.
I'll summon a mod to shut this down.

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If this stays CIVIL however ....... I'll let the mods decide.
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