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Difference between level 10 guns?

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Post Mon May 26, 2003 8:02 pm

Difference between level 10 guns?

How does a Diamondback differ from a Thor's Hammer, et cetera? There's small differences in damage and power, but that's all I can see. Do they have other effects that make them unique? I notice that the game says they're "classified" and only their names are known.

Post Mon May 26, 2003 8:17 pm

Diamondback/Cerberus are the best for damage, Wildfire is the most efficient... everything else pretty much sucks.

Post Tue May 27, 2003 5:04 pm

When you say the others suck, does that include the nomad weapons? I never got round to trying the other L10 weapons, but the nomad guns seem to 'pwn' all (firing at no power cost is also a big bonus).

CW

Post Tue May 27, 2003 5:36 pm

Nomad weapons definitely don't suck, and IMHO they are better than the artifact weapons.

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Post Tue May 27, 2003 5:52 pm

Oh, I wasn't thinking about nomads. They're good. I used to have all of them, but I got sick of looking plain and purple so I threw in a few others.

Post Tue May 27, 2003 8:27 pm

NOMAD guns are only good LVL 10 guns, all other guns suck your energy so fast, even in Titan, or Sabre, or Eagle

Post Tue May 27, 2003 8:55 pm

If anyone knows the exact stats (damage/refire/energy drain) for any of the "codename" class 10's and wanted to post them that would be pretty cool.

Post Tue May 27, 2003 9:42 pm

Name Class Hull Shield Range Speed Refire Energy
ARCHANGEL 10 978 489 699 600 2 268
BLOODSTONE 10 880 440 699 600 2 220
BLUE BLAZE 10 1075 537 699 600 2 244
CEREBUS 10 1173 586 699 600 2 293
DARK BLOSSOM 10 978 489 699 600 2 268
DIAMONDBACK 10 1173 586 699 600 2 293
GOLDEN BLADE 10 782 391 699 600 2 195
GUARDIAN 10 1075 537 699 600 2 268
IRON HAMMER 10 880 440 699 600 2 220
JADE 10 652 326 699 600 3.03 163
Nomad Energy Blaster 635 317 699 600 4 0
Nomad Energy Cannon 847 423 699 600 3.03 0
ONYX 10 1075 537 699 600 2 268
PROMETHEUS 10 586 293 699 600 3.03 146
SILVERFIRE 10 717 358 699 600 3.03 179
THOR'S HAMMER 10 880 440 699 600 2 244
WILDFIRE 10 1075 537 699 600 2 220

The nomads are definatly the best level 10 guns. They have the highest damage per second and use no energy. Of couse it gets boring when everyone uses them.

I am become death, destroyer of worlds. - Robert J. Oppenheimer
Only the winners decide what were war crimes. - Gary WIlls

Edited by - Angel-of-Death on 27-05-2003 22:42:21

Post Wed May 28, 2003 2:55 am

What about damage types? Do they all affect shields the same amount?
(you know, the whole "photon/laser-plasma/particle-tachyon/neutron" shield differences)

Post Wed May 28, 2003 5:39 am

As far as I know they all damage all shields the same. Very cool post Angel.

Post Wed May 28, 2003 5:55 am

Sorry I couldn't make it better. When I typed it it was in columns but when I posted it it got messed up. Levle 10 guns have no class and they all affect shields to their full potential.

I am become death, destroyer of worlds. - Robert J. Oppenheimer
Only the winners decide what were war crimes. - Gary WIlls

Post Sun Jun 01, 2003 12:14 pm

I think one might find difference in refire rate - at least I did. After few dodgefights with nomad guns (2xBlaster, 2xCannon) I went back to "normal" Class 10 because I prefer lower rate with greater punch, it seems I can aim better with that setup. Nomads are either 4.0 or 3.03 refire rate, though most "classics" are 2.0 (some are also 3.03).
Finally I ended up with 2xDIAMONDBACK and 2xBLUE BLAZE and do not expect to figure out anything much better.

Post Sun Jun 01, 2003 2:48 pm

only slight differences, though if you do a calculation based on damage done vs energy used you will see that the Wildfire and blue blaze come out on top, both in energy efficiency and total damage done.

Post Sun Jun 01, 2003 8:31 pm

Strange, after I post here, I started to experiment with different refire rate changing my 4/2/2 refire rate setup (2xSalamanca Mk II & 2xDIAMONDBACK & 2xBLUE BLAZE) to 3.03/3.03/3.03 (2xWyrm II & 2x Nomad Cannons & 2xWILD FIRE) and it seems quite good .
The other interesting factor between those two setups is projectile speed. For the former case it aligns at 600m/s for the latter it is 700m/s for Wyrm and 600m/s for the rest. I have yet to find targeting/convergence problem with the latter (I expected there should be some problems due to different speeds). Maybe the faster weapons follow the slower ones .

Post Sun Jun 01, 2003 10:37 pm

Level 10's are effective against all sheild types!

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