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Is Earth actually destroyed?

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Post Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:00 am

my question is, why did the order have to be so secret about the nomads? i would have told everyone.

gee, that guy's cool.

Post Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:13 am

What would you do if some guy you've NEVER seen before who says he works for a shadow orginazation came to you and said:

"Hey, there's an alien race we have no hope of understanding that's posessed a good amount of Sirius' political and military leaders and is advancing quickly. Their aim is to start a massive war in Sirius space to soften up humanity, so they can come in and wipe out what's left - come help us fight them!"

Now, if they wanted to inform everyone quickly, it would require them to do something like get on whatever Sirius uses for television or radio. To do this, they would likely need government sanction. However, those governments have /already been infiltrated by Nomads/...The Order would never be able to reach everyone, especially while maintaining the level of secrecy necessary. If you told everyone, the Nomads would know, and some of their agents would infiltrate your ranks and cause havoc when you ansolutely cannot deal with it.

Post Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:42 am


maybe it just turned into a red giant

According to scientific projection (not that any of them have been into a star and found out), our sun only has enough fuel to engulf Mercury and Venus. It *might* engulf the Earth, but its more likely it will just get close enough to liquidate it. Dunno where I read it, but there was some rather graphic artwork in it.

They were going to wipe out the Sol system. If I remember rightly, an alien ship decloaked at a stand-off between the Coalition and the Aliance, fired something into the sun, and blew it up. But they cut that a loooong time ago, I have no idea why people are still dwelling on it. I'm fairly sure that the Sol system still exists in the Freelancer universe. It would limit their opportunities for futher story development methinks, imagine all the expansions and add-ons they could have involving Syrius and Sol...

I could be wrong. The guys at Digital Anvil could just have cut it, but secretly destroyed the Sol system without telling anyone. I mean, I'm fairly sure that the majority of Freelancer players won't have downloaded that initial intro movie/script. In fact, I'm willing to wager that the majority of Freelancer players didn't even play Starlancer, they're just getting caught in the (warranted) hype. The one good thing about Microsoft is that it is one of the few publishers, other than perhaps EA and Activision, who can afford to splash out on advertising and make a bigger gaming community.

Post Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:35 pm

Does anybody know a place where I can find the original intro?

Post Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:29 pm

http://www.lancersreactor.com/flintro.zip that sould do it...

I Don't want To end up in corpse early because YOU were daydreaming - Corsairs Pilot.

Post Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:49 pm

I think they cut it out because they wanted the Nomads to be a mystery till near the end of the game. I consider this a mistake however because it totally ruined the intro

Post Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:58 pm

Why? TBH, I found the original silly. "Random aliens turn up and blow up Sol for no apparent reason, then bugger off." Makes little sense to me.

Still, looks spiffy. KABOOM!

Post Tue Apr 15, 2003 8:45 pm

The requested document is utterly inexistent.
No such page here.
Even tried multi.
Nothing helped.
I'm really depressed about this.
Even more so now that Douglas Adams is dead.
You see, I'm just a web server..._

etc.etc.


Why? TBH, I found the original silly. "Random aliens turn up and blow up Sol for no apparent reason, then bugger off." Makes little sense to me.

Isn't that what happens in about EVERY space-sim?

Edited by - Ferror on 15-04-2003 21:47:10

Post Tue Apr 15, 2003 9:56 pm

I agree that Sol no doubt still stands and having seen the intro several times the Coalition by no doubt has figured out Hyper Space technology. Which if I was going to create a Freelancer 2 would have the Coalition finally reach Sirus and begin the extermination they started a long time ago. Or the Sirians could possibly use one of the Nomad hypergates to travel back to Sol and reclaim there home. However what i would really like to know is where is the wreckage of the Hispania and why was it the only one lost?

Post Tue Apr 15, 2003 10:21 pm

I have a questions......why didnt the commies follow the sleeper ships? and also why havnt they gone to sirus....i mean those ships shouldnt have been hard to track. If you take those questions into account then i'm guessing that Sol was destroyed? if not then maybe that war is still going on and tying up all of the coalitions forces. Either way if the coalition didnt follow and/or go to sirus to fight the former allience members, then what happened? Either that wars still going on or Sol "went boom with a bang"

Heretic

Post Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:08 pm

in today's wars, do you see armies going after refugees? they rather stay and fight than senselessly kill civilians trying to get away from the war.... sure... they fired at them as they were fleeing probably cuz there was a battle, and during battles, you don't care what you shoot as long as it keeps you alive....

and another thing, my hypothesis is that all that stuff with the alien ship appearing out of nowhere to destroy the sun really happens and it's officially revealed in Freelancer 2 to make it more exciting. But it didn't happen after the Alliance fled, but hundreds of years later, and they didn't really destroy the sun, they merely invaded and waged war ont he Coalition. The Coalition, being inferior to the advanced Alien military, flees to Sirus too. The Houses of Sirus think that the Coalition is invading, and they attack the incoming Coalition. The Coalition thinks that the Houses of Sirus isn't going to give them safe haven peacefully, so they return fire. There's a big war for some time, then Trent, or some other Freelancer that the game decides to create, discovers some how the Coalition's real intent, and the Freelancer has to get the word across. Once that's done, they some how discover that it isn't the Nomads but infact the uhh... Don Kilvash(Spelling is most likely wrong), the alien race that left the Nomads to take care of their land (Remember? They just mysteriously disappeared even though their Empire was so great and thriving). Apparently, the Don Kilvash left Sirus expand their empire, our Solar System was one of their targets. The Coalition and the Houses of Sirius combine and we have a huge Liberation Force going back to our Solar System in an attempt to win it back and destroy the Don Kilvash. Doesn't that seem exciting?

Edited by - chopstickz on 16-04-2003 22:28:06

Edited by - chopstickz on 16-04-2003 23:09:48

Post Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:27 pm

Umm. I don't think you guys watched carefully but in war i haven't seen refugee ships carrying guns. However in Freelancer the Sleeper ships wre firing back at eh coalition forces. But like in war i think the coalition most definitely defeated the alliance, but Sol is still standing. Why simply because the alliance wouldn't hav had the resources to fight back the coalition after they launched the sleeper ships so they were pretty much done. As for the coalition coming after them why would you use sleeper ships if you going only a short distance and you had hyper/warp drive capability. Well on reason would be that it would still take several years to travle from here to another galaxy and i don't know about you guyus but if i was the leader of the coalition then i wouldn't want to send my guys after an enemy on trip that would take nearly 20 years.

Post Wed Apr 16, 2003 9:30 pm

okay, so the sleeper ships were firing back at the Coalition, that's why they were attacked and some were destroyed

Post Wed Apr 16, 2003 10:50 pm

I don't think that the sleeper ships fired at anything... I'd imagine all their power was being used up for several hundred cryo pods and jump drive... doubt that they even had enough power to shoot back. I just watched the intro, it looks like those orange laser blasts are coming from the sleeper ships, but watch carefully and you'll notice they all come from behind them. After they zoom past you'll note several fighters (Alliance providing cover, Coalition chasing, can't tell) following them.
I think the Coalition were too busy fighting the ships that actually posed a threat to turn round, exposing their engines to fire, and give chase. By the time the battle finished, provided the Coalition won (they were taking some nasty losses), the sleeper ships would be too far away to chase. Besides, I'm sure they had better uses for combat ships than to chase a bunch of sleeping soldiers, the wake ones presented a much greater risk.

And, if you did indeed play the SP campaign and pay attention to those cutscenes, you'd know that the Nomads were put there to defend that ancient alien empire. I don't remember an alien overlord making us slaves, so I don't think Sol was part of that Empire. Therefore the Nomads would have no need to destroy Sol.
And I think that we'd have been told if the system that humanity originated from was destroyed. Y'never know, the Sirians could have long range telescopes (we've got one, for Christ's sake) looking at their home system. I'd sure want to know what my home system looked like, and what state it was in.

Edited by - matt_lever on 16-04-2003 23:52:21

Edited by - matt_lever on 16-04-2003 23:55:36

Post Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:22 am

I don't think it makes sense that only the sleeper ships get to escape to sirius. What about those that are left behind ? I think that it was a strategic withdrawal whereby the ones that stayed behind on pluto and the ships delay the onslaught of the Coalition and draw fire away from the sleeper ships before also accompanying the sleeper ships to sirius.
I think that those in the sleeper ships were all the civilian crews or those that got the lottery draw.

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