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Blackhole!.....where?!

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Post Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:26 am



but see it and die it could be worth everything ...


Uh... you won't see anything once past the event horizon
Black holes are one of those natural events that you want to view from afar... Like the plama jets, or the red-shifting X-ray (alright! X-ray vision!). Not to mention your in-laws as they hurl helplessly past the point of no return after being ejected by you...

Post Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:56 am

You are talking about 10k in the game... right? Otherwise...

Post Mon Mar 31, 2003 9:59 am

Well... I know that you wouldn't see anything below event horizon but i suppose i would be so amazed that i fly directly into blackhole. I'm waiting for an expansion pack, hoping that some new objects will be added (including blackholes).

(...) what? worlds are dissapearing? ummm... yes, it could be my fault (...)

Post Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:18 am

If I'm not mistaken I believe that the event horizon of a black hole is at the perimeter of the star's outer shell. So, if you had a star that was x diameter in width, then the event horizon would be x. Of course, you would have to get past huge amounts of radiation to even get to the event horizon, so chances are your ship would detonate well before you even got to the event horizon (much like when you try to fly between the 3 stars in Sigma-17).

Post Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:05 pm

You want your head to REALLY hurt, try reading "A Brief History of Time" as mentioned earlier.


Any object that begins to fall into a black hole never reaches the center since time itself begins to slow (exponentially IIRC) the further in you go.


HEad hurts....OoooOOwwww.....!

Post Mon Mar 31, 2003 7:22 pm

The "black hole" that you cant fly to is in the backdrop of Omicron Alpha. What I want to know is why the heck Planet Primus is controlled by Samura.

Post Mon Mar 31, 2003 10:28 pm

the anomaly in Omega 3:

You see it in the singleplayer game. After you rescue Dr. Sinclair and Rheinland blows up the docking ring of the planet she was working on, you flee to an old research station. Outside it was that anomoly you mentioned (at c-5 in Omega3) As you leave, that base is blown up, leaving a hole in the cloud with a lonely anomoly. There's one just like it in the badlands of New York system where the other research station was that the Liberty Navy blew up as you fled that system.

I remember finding it (in omega3) after I'd finished the campaign and thinking it was pretty cool. Took me a while to figure out I'd been to it iduring the campaign I wasn't paying too much attention to the universe map in the first half of the campaign.

Post Tue Apr 01, 2003 1:33 am

Im Talking about Ten Notical Miles.

if you know what that means.

"Your constantly making withdrawls from my Self-Esteem Account[!"

Post Tue Apr 01, 2003 5:33 am

Isn't the event horizon the place in the black holes gravity well where the gravity gets so strong that even light cannot escape? Also, doesn't a black hole keep growing due to the fact that it is constantly drawing more and more mass into itself, thus increasing it's gravitational pull?

Post Tue Apr 01, 2003 6:26 am

Ya, the event horizen is the VERY opening into the mouth of the Blackhole, where nothing can ever escape and all communications are shut off.... after that, you aint in kansess anymore.

Post Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:36 pm

You all wanted to know why a Black Hole wouldnt work in this game? Well here is a test you can do on your own.

Go to the star in Unknown Sector, the one with Gammu and Primus Planets. The star thats 200K away from where you port in.

Now, go to the star get as close tot he center as you want, and then turn around. The escape velocity is so high for that one star, and you litterally have to slingshot yorself out, if your lucky I guess lol.

Now, thats a Large Yellow. NOW, a black hole is made from a star Equal to or larger than the mass of our star. The Sun.

So, the sun is this big. 1.991x10(to power of)30

Thats

1991000000000000000000000000000000.

NOW, a black hole is 100,000,000 times the mass of the star tthat collapsed, so if our sun collpased, we would get a black hole thats this big in mass... MASS, not size.

199100000000000000000000000000000000000000.

Something like that.

Thats its mass, meaning its.. size, weight, whatever.

Now, a Blackhole sucks in mass at 1 half its mass. This means, that a blackhole that big will suck something in at around 19910000000000000000 miles per hour. Thats until you hit the event horizen, then its faster then the speed of light.

Now 19910000000000000000 miles per hour in a game is impossible with how small systems are... so a black hole wouldnt work.. But right now im trying to get the matht o work with the engine, if I can I might be able to have it modded right. anyways.. tahts why lol.

Fun huh?

Post Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:52 pm

Hey, what the hell are those anomalies anyways?

Post Tue Apr 01, 2003 10:59 pm

You're gettin a little over the top here. I don't think we want an exact and physically correct black hole in the game, but a stylized science-fiction one... with stress on fiction. Something that looks cool even though you wouldn't be able to see a real black hole. Maybe something that has a special treat, other then sucking you in and killing you that is. One possibility could be that the black hole is the host of a wormhole, one that randomly ejects you out of one of the over 100 jumpholes or something like that.

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Post Wed Apr 02, 2003 1:38 am

If there was a blackhole it would need to be in a system all by itself because a blackhole is a star that imploded on itself.

Explode = SUPA NOVA
Implode = BLACKHOLE

There could be one in Omicron Beta theres no star there at least none that i seen

A blackhole could suck away at a sun if there were two suns in the system and one imploded.

Post Wed Apr 02, 2003 5:08 am

Ya if there was an exactly correct one in the game, the Sirius system would, disappear lol

Havn't you ever wanted to just TURN off that darned automated computer on your ship saying "Warning, Entering Atmosphere?" I mean cmon, I KNOW Im entering the Atmosphere. Thats the point isnt it?

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