What factions are you likely to brush up against running diamonds from New Berlin to New Tokyo? My brother and I got jumped and waxed just before entering Rheinland, by, I think, the Unioners. We are stronger now, but I was hoping to raise some faction before we try to reach there again, to minimise our losses and risk.

Are new factions added to your faction list as you enter new systems and meet new folk? I am guessing this is the case. In which case I might not be able to raise faction before successfully reaching Rheinland?

Anyone ever tried this route...

Using a dromdary
Hanshu --> Mactan (engine components) +350350
Mactan --> Planet Manhatten (NY System,Cardamine) +189750
Manhattan --> Planet LA(Calaf System, hfuel) +16225
LA --> Planet Honshu(honshu system, Lux Consumer goods) + 212850

Total Profit £769175

That's

1,203,682 USD or

1,139,687 EUR

based on todays exchange rates

kaeptn

Not the most profitable route but one of the fastest I have found is

Mactan base --> NY Jump Gate --> Texas Jump Hole --> Beaumont Base

Send Cardamine to Beaumont
Send Engine components to Mactan

Total value per cargo slot per round trip is 1139 or 313225 with the Dromedary.
This may be the fastest way to make money on trade.

Ok this is it, got to stuttgart to feilburg station where you buy diamonds for 308 and head to New Tokyo. You make a larger profit for the slightly longer trip you make to stuttgart instead of New Berlin

Hanshu --> Mactan (engine components) +350350
Mactan --> Planet Manhatten (NY System,Cardamine) +189750
Manhattan --> Planet LA(Calaf System, hfuel) +16225
LA --> Planet Honshu(honshu system, Lux Consumer goods) + 212850


Planet Honshu => Mactan Base
sell Luxury Consumer Goods: 990
Profit: 810
buy Engine Components: 150

Mactan Base => Planet Manhatten
sell Engine Components: 1424
Profit: 1274
buy Cardamine: 810

Planet Manhatten => Planet Honshu
sell Cardamine: 1500
Profit: 690
buy Luxury Consumer Goods: 180

overall Profit: 2774
maximum time for a profit of about 80 credits per minute per cargo slot (equals New Berlin => New Tokyo):
2774/80= ~35 minutes


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Mactan base --> NY Jump Gate --> Texas Jump Hole --> Beaumont Base

Send Cardamine to Beaumont
Send Engine components to Mactan

Mactan Base => Beaumont Base (Texas)
sell Engine Components: 1424
Profit: 749
buy Cardamine: 810

Beaumont Base (Texas) => Mactan Base
sell Cardamine: 1200
Profit: 390
buy Engine Components: 675

overall Profit:
maximum time for a profit of about 80 credits per minute per cargo slot (equals New Berlin => New Tokyo):
1139/80= ~14 minutes

Okay guys, I think I may have set a record for:

LONGEST. TRADE ROUTE. EVAR.
(that's still good and profitable of course)

Cambridge - > Hawaii (Luxury Food)
Hop to Ruiz base (omicron beta)
Ruiz -> Califonia Minor (Alien Organisms)

Those are the "glamor" legs of the run. With a full dromedary and cargo wastage, The Meat run made a profit of 374,400. But the alien run, holy cow, profit was 494,000.

Total time from Cambridge was at least 45 minutes, I'd guess.

Then, if you want to round it out, I do other things to keep busy. Gold from los angeles to manhattan. Optronics from fort bush to Cambridge.

Incidentally, on both the meat and alien runs, I lost 15 units of cargo. Either both legs took the same time, or aliens decay little faster.

ER

PS - you need to be at least neutral with the outcasts, of course

@ Rascilon "I am surprised that so many people have not mentioned the initial investment for cargo as being an important factor when calculating the value of a trade route."

If you’re referring to my post, you’re devastatingly wrong. I mentioned every factor that I felt important, including the initial investment, how much you would walk away with, and what would be actual profit.
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My post was more then a single run, it did convey the math used to help players figure out just exactly what their runs are worth.

I purposely left out the JH since the route I offered was intended to be good in MP.

as far that the ROI, 396 per item is not a huge investment for a return of 1650 that yields 1254 profit. If you do one mission, get yourself 4,000 credits you have enough for 10 diamonds roughly. your looking at stopping in Tokyo and selling, only to have... 16500 credits, 12540 of which is sheer profit. That’s a perfect run for a level 8, provided your faction will allow you to pass between Berlin and Tokyo.

ROFL thanks for the heads up on spelling.

Just about all your posts are great keep the community going - peace




Stop.
Before you reply just remember, the truth hurts.
Now chances are if you hated what I said I was right

Well, a "safe" route depends on who likes you.

There's a couple short routes I really like for a bit of quick cash.

Buy Alien Organisms at Ruiz base, Omicron Beta for 100
Take to Atka research station, sigma 17 and sell for 700
Buy Phameceuticals for 415 and return to Ruiz base
Sell Pharmeceuticals for 800.
Repeat

It takes just under 5 minutes travel each direction, and between Ruiz and Atka you only lose 2 units of Alien Organisms to decay.

So you end up with profit of approximately 985*cargo space in 10 minutes, and you can turn around and do it again if you want to.

Another good one is back and forth between Planet Malta and Freeport 9, cardamine one way and light arms the other. That takes about 4 minutes each direction, so its 8 minutes round trip for 800*cargo space for profit.

I've never timed the Diamond/Niobium run, so I don't know how much money per time that produces, but with a Humpback on that cardamine/light arms run, you average 25,000 credits per minute. Do 5 laps(40 minutes) and you've got a million credits in profits.

Ok, I'm still fairly new to all this but can anyone suggest a good trade route for me. I'm level 7, flying a Defender, finished Mission 3, the rogues hate me, as do Junkers, Outcast etc. I would like to trade at Buffalo base as I've heard you get good prices there for Light Arms, but its owned by the Outcasts and I don't know where it is.
So basically how can I improve my rep with the Outcasts and find Buffalo Base.
Cheers.




All I have in this world are my word and my balls; and I don't break them for nobody

I like:
Hood, dublin (gold) - Rochester base, NY (280 -780 ish)
Rochester (small arms) - Malta, Omicron alpha (190 - 1200 ish)
Malta, OA (cardamine) - Ruiz base (about 30 per unit)

You can trade back and forth between ruiz and malta for a 70K round trip in a dromedary, but....

Liner Hawaii, sigma19 (artifacts) - (Hogosha/Farmers Aliance base, can't remember where, Kasari space) (400 - 800 I think)

From the same base you can make some profit going to deshima station,
Deshima (engine parts) - Mactan base, magellan (400 - 1400 ish)

I've made as much as 750K running variations of this route, mapped out at level 11 once I'd bought my dromedary.

Provided you're in with the outcasts, and the hackers and neutral with the bounty hunters you'll have no problems.

Easy run:

If you want a real simple run try London to Cambridge, you can make 20K each way in a drone, Lux consumer goods and Diamonds I seem to recall.

later
jb

I am not 'attack on sight' with any factions with my trader 'mule', its dull as hell lol.