Yeah, you can hear it in its entirety on the BBC website.

When was it?

Edited by - The Evil Thing on 8/13/2005 10:39:41 AM

That was what I was just looking for - obviously it wasn't that show.........but it was within the last week I am sure. I am sure it was within the last 3 days <_<

Lol, that guy is even more of a douche bag than John Kerry, and even more retarded than Bush.

Sorry about that, I was in a rush to type this.

Edited by - Killa on 8/14/2005 7:32:58 AM

...um, Killa? I think the word you were trying to spell was "retarded"...

but I do agree.

this nanny-knows-best attitude is spreading around the world. whilst some form of content rating and censorship is indeed ineveitable (and of course quite proper) the extent at which we are being warned and chided for any form of violent or sexual content is imo unnecessary. I did larf when i saw the warnings for *The Day after the Week before Last Tuesday or was it the Day Before?* "caution - contains scenes of extended peril* Just what the hell does that mean, exactly? it was a disaster film! and despite it being this apocalyptic cataclysm that overturns western society in a few hours, no-one gets violoent or loots or even has any form of sexual or intimate contact apart from holding hands. yeh right. At least in Shpeelburg's WOTW there was some sign of the fabric of society fraying, if not falling apart, although the Meister of Mawkishness had to follow a plot laid down for him; no doubt left to his own devices everyone would have been goody-two shoes and there'd have been no nastiness amongst the rufugees whatsover. (and he did manage to get another cutesy blond kid in - so predictable that man)

sorry folks i like a bit of a harder edge to my stuff, and I don't need to be mollycoddled. your discussions on that latest Star Wars film recently made me chortle a bit, someone said it was upsetting that he (the cr*p Darth Vader not the proper one) killed the kids - did you actually see it take place? was it graphically depicted in any form whatsoever? no. a proper old Slaughter of the Innocents yet its brushed over in a few lines and a couple of peripheral scenes.

after all there's plenty of precedents and pedigrees in our own civilisation and history for similar behaviour, even (and especially) in the Bible. why pretend it doesn't happen or that it's not really to be talked about? can't live in a sanitised world forever. I've always made sure my kids have a realistic view of the world and as theyve got older taken the trouble to try to explain to them that the world is not a safe place but that they can't wish the bad stuff away or hide from it. that doesn't mean i shove their noses in it, but it does mean they have a healthy skepticism towards what is presented to them and they tend not to take to take things at face value, which is rather bueno i think.

6 yr olds should be treated as 6 yr olds but when adults start being treated as 6 yr olds, as if they have the emotional maturity of children, then there's something rather wrong. even the term *adult entertainment* has the understood implication of being ridden with vice. seems like there is this false dichotomy (as if western society wasn't riddled with them) between *family* and *adult* themes, the former being cotton-wool wrapped and the latter being sex and violence. it ain't necessarily so.

anyway, spawn of Satan that I am, i'm off to corrupt some more youth.







Edited by - Tawakalna (Reloaded) on 8/14/2005 4:38:51 AM

Well said, Taw. Do you watch Grumpy Old Men by any chance?

watch it? I'm the technical advisor!

"Thou hast awoken from thy Slumberre, o Ancient Sorrowe of yearres.."

Really? Cool So when's the next series, then?

Hey Taw only qualifies for the old part by one year.

I was born old...