humans are a species that have the ability to make free choice.

laws are made to stop us from abusing that in the wrong way.

if people really had an understanding of the world and how it worked. people would blame gravity for thier weight and not mcdonalds.

"people would blame gravity for thier weight and not mcdonalds."

wow, thats great.

Yeah, laws are made to keep people from harming others, but then again how boring would a Utopia be? We would never have improvements if we never had problems. Sure, we'd be living well, but we could be living better.

Anarchy Desends into fuedalism, without law anarchy begins.....

Keep law.

"if people really had an understanding of the world and how it worked. people would blame gravity for thier weight and not mcdonalds."

Clearly you dont understand how the world works becuase gravity doesnt make you fat. Its how you eat and your body, some people are overweight becuase of a disease.

Edited by - DSQrn on 3/26/2005 10:32:08 AM

let me explain. your weight is decided by the gravational pull on you created by the earth. reguardless of how much you eat you weigh 0 (in space you weigh 0, but in fact there is always a slight pull in space created by a nearby star or planet). when you get fat you only increase your mass. in reality someone who is overweight on earth could go to a planet with less gravity and they would not be overweight there. but the mass would still exist. basicly someone whos round and weighs 300 lb on earth could go to a planet with 1/2 the gravity and they would be 150 lb. yet they would still be round and appear fat although fat is not directly related to weight. since muscle weighs more than fat. you have to count that in to. so the question comes to which is being overweight? the resulting gravitational pull on you or the amount of space you occupy?

simple physics.. offtopic though. i just figured you could all use a little mind opener. since the more open someones mind is the greater range of choices they can make and thus the more freedom.

But gravity itself doesnt make them fat, im thin he's fat were both on earth....

anyhow back on subject

What I'm trying to point out I guess, is that people are very fast to complain about laws or rules, but they do not realise that in fact these laws and rules were made to protect them and make life better from them. So in effect, people are defending people who will make their life worse.

Sawubona "Intombazanyana"!

I have no idea what your name means but I do know a Zulu word when I see one! Welcome to TLR!

laws are made to protect us. some people take that fact for granted. but some states have messed up laws.

Micahd

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if people really had an understanding of the world and how it worked. people would blame gravity for thier weight and not mcdonalds.

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DSQrn

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Clearly you dont understand how the world works becuase gravity doesnt make you fat. Its how you eat and your body, some people are overweight becuase of a disease.

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micahd

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let me explain. your weight is decided by the gravational pull on you created by the earth. reguardless of how much you eat you weigh 0 (in space you weigh 0, but in fact there is always a slight pull in space created by a nearby star or planet). when you get fat you only increase your mass. in reality someone who is overweight on earth could go to a planet with less gravity and they would not be overweight there. but the mass would still exist. basicly someone whos round and weighs 300 lb on earth could go to a planet with 1/2 the gravity and they would be 150 lb. yet they would still be round and appear fat although fat is not directly related to weight. since muscle weighs more than fat. you have to count that in to. so the question comes to which is being overweight? the resulting gravitational pull on you or the amount of space you occupy?

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Haha - pwnd!

From what he first posted which was clearly about weight and macdonalds, your response was funny.

Thought that was funny enough to register and post even

*sigh* He says people should blame gravity for there weight... different settings of gravity changes your wieght but it doesnt adminsitor your wieght....

There are no settings to gravity - its a force between two masses

Yes - gravity does *administor* your weight, without gravity there isn't any weight. Hence your *weightlessness* in space.....your mass remains the same - which is a measure of how much of you there is. Your weight is a force caused by gravity on your mass. It has direction, magnitude etc.

Your talking about weight in a Oprah sense, not in the scientific sense...


Oh yeah, and its weight, not wieght

Edited by - Spud Monkey on 3/26/2005 11:35:58 AM

the laws of nature are also here to keep things in order. but its hard not to take those for granted since you dont spend each day thinking about them.

um...no, micahd, no. Fatness is relevant not to your weight. A man who is 400 kg here and 100 kg on another planet is still fat and overweight--because the term "overweight" is relative, not absolute. If he weighs 100 kg on another planet, and the average weight is 40 kg, he is still overweight. The measurement is all relative.

Furthermore, he is still fat--he is grossly and unhealthily insulated by blubber, so to speak, as opposed to muscle.

I grossly disagree with the statement up there, primarily because its original premise--when fighting for human freedoms, one spends time defending scoundrels--is not factual. What about the women's rights movement? Nelson Mandela's fight against Apartheid? People have been arguing against capital punishment, for example, for precisely the reason that those being killed are NOT scoundrels (at least, not enough of a scoundrel to be murdered themselves.)

Fighting for human freedoms is not centred around defending scoundrels. It is centred around fighting scoundrels--the oppresors who try to limit freedom of action unnecessarily due to an unchecked purity code on the rampage.

Edited by - Wilde on 3/26/2005 11:44:24 AM

OK, can you guys please get back on topic now

If you really want to discuss the weight vs mass issue start a new thread for it.