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guess what i found

This is where you can discuss your homework, family, just about anything, make strange sounds and otherwise discuss things which are really not related to the Lancer-series. Yes that means you can discuss other games.

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:18 pm

guess what i found

i was looking through this website as i had started dling the full version LEGALLY of bridge commander 3 but it had been i slow time, anyway i'm scrolling through the space action section and i come across this:

scroll to the bottom, now i don't like freepsace alot, but i've heard you guys moaning how you miss it so much and so on and so forth( i don't even have a joystick anyway) so i have my suspicions too me being the man whos come across to many"too good to be true" stories, so someone dl this and then tell the us whether or not its just a demo or the real deal, though this might interest you guys and i know some of you will be absent from these forums for days if this turns out ot be full version.

Edited by - Chips on 3/21/2005 2:51:14 PM

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:21 pm

Ahem...the underdogs is not legal.


Merc for hire...but only if you can afford it.

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:34 pm

say what? is too.show me where it says otherwise, or else if this gets removed i will complain.and i quote:


Disclaimer: Home of the Underdogs does not claim rights to any software on the site. To the best of our knowledge, these titles have been discontinued by their publishers. If you know otherwise, please contact us and we will remove them accordingly. Thank you for your attention.



Edited by - Dragonborn on 3/21/2005 1:35:34 PM

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:47 pm

underdogs is a warez site, and wares is BARELY legal at best..

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:53 pm

the stuffs discontinued it's not warez, they don't make a profit, the companies probably don't even care the games save for afew are so old, besides didn't my previous post quote a disclaimer that they would remove any content not discontinued.

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:53 pm


say what? is too.show me where it says otherwise, or else if this gets removed i will complain


Complaining won't get you far. Okay, I'll explain this to you as simply as I can. the underdogs provides licensed and copyrighted software developed by other studios and it provides this software without permission of these studios to the general populace. In other words...it's as illegal as Kazaa. What sometimes muddles the issue is that the underdogs does also have some (and I stress the some) legal programs/games that it also provides. Most people I talk to use the argument of, "Well but we can't find these games for sell anywhere...therefore it MUST be legal to download them." Until 40 years has passed and the copyright is up for renewal, the underdogs has no legal right to host those games.

Now, as a practical manner, you may be right, most companies don't care if these games are hosted by the underdogs but that doesn't make it legal. Until the underdogs has the express written consent of such companies their files are illegally being shared. The discontinued argument is pathetic...If I copyright a new design for a jet engine and then produce 500 of them and then decide I'm never going to make another it doesn't mean you can come along and make my copyrighted design for free and give it to the public. That's not legal.




Merc for hire...but only if you can afford it.

Edited by - Major Striker on 3/21/2005 1:52:50 PM

Edited by - Major Striker on 3/21/2005 1:55:37 PM

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:01 pm

ok, ok geez sorry i ever mentioned the damn thing, just trying to be nice.

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:46 pm

Dragonborn - since you gentlemen have managed to come to an amicable agreement, I have removed the link from your first post - as illegal warez, cracks or discussions upon how to obtain illegal warez/cracks and downloads is not permitted.

I hope you understand, but the link couldn't remain.

Thankyou.



Edited by - Chips on 3/21/2005 2:50:38 PM

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:58 pm

*Steps from shadows* Most Abandonware is not technically "warez" as the games are no longer supported by their creators. TU is very particular about that, and may still list games that are protected, but do not offer them as downloads. In any case, abandonware is morally and ethically justifiable because if a game is no longer supported by its creators/publishers and is not being published anymore, then it can be seen to be freeware (more or less). Yes it is still illegal, but ethical. *Fades back into shadows*

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:42 pm

I trust Chip's judgement on this one. If not illegal, it was at the very least dodgy. Being a responsible mod he can't afford to allow TLR to make possible such activity.

By the way, Esky--you post an awful lot for a lurker

Post Mon Mar 21, 2005 3:59 pm

Well as for freespace i have lost 3 ebay bids on it, cnat find it in toronto (ive checked 15 stores) so i am getting kinda irked...

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