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Those Autumn Leaves.....

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Post Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:36 am

Those Autumn Leaves.....



Now they are beginning to think that when trees turn color in the Fall, it is not a simple matter of wasting away, of chlorophyll being reclaimed by the tree so that what's left behind are the colors that were blotted out by the chlorophyll.

Now they think that it may be a kind of self defense warning mechanism.....

Post Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:37 am

Those Brilliant Fall Outfits May Be Saving Trees
By CARL ZIMMER

Published: October 19, 2004


As trees across the northern United States turn gold and crimson, scientists are debating exactly what those colors are for.

The scientists do agree on one thing: the colors are for something. That represents a major shift in thinking. For decades, textbooks claimed that autumn colors were just a byproduct of dying leaves. "I had always assumed that autumn leaves were waste baskets," said Dr. David Wilkinson, an evolutionary ecologist at Liverpool John Moores University in England. "That's what I was told as a student."

During spring and summer, leaves get their green cast from chlorophyll, the pigment that plays a major role in capturing sunlight. But the leaves also contain other pigments whose colors are masked during the growing season. In autumn, trees break down their chlorophyll and draw some of the components back into their tissues. Conventional wisdom regards autumn colors as the product of the remaining pigments, which were finally unmasked. In other words, autumn leaves were a tree's gray hair.

But in recent years, scientists have recognized that autumn colors probably play an important role in the life of many trees. Yellow leaves get their color from a class of pigments called carotenoids. Another group of molecules, anthocyanins, produce oranges and reds. Trees need energy to make carotenoids and anthocyanins, but they cannot reclaim that energy because the pigments stay in a leaf when it dies. If the pigments did not help the tree survive, they would be a waste. What's more, leaves actually start producing a lot of new anthocyanin when autumn arrives.

"The reds are not unmasked-they are made in autumn," said Dr. David Lee, a botanist at Florida International University.

Evolutionary biologists and plant physiologists offer two different explanations for why natural selection has made autumn colors so widespread, despite their cost. Dr. William Hamilton, an evolutionary biologist at Oxford University, proposed that bright autumn leaves contain a message: they warn insects to leave them alone.

Dr. Hamilton's "leaf signal" hypothesis grew out of earlier work he had done on the extravagant plumage of birds. He proposed it served as an advertisement from males to females, indicating they had desirable genes. As females evolved a preference for those displays, males evolved more extravagant feathers as they competed for mates.

In the case of trees, Dr. Hamilton proposed that the visual message was sent to insects. In the fall, aphids and other insects choose trees where they will lay their eggs. When the eggs hatch the next spring, the larvae feed on the tree, often with devastating results. A tree can ward off these pests with poisons.

Dr. Hamilton speculated that trees with strong defenses might be able to protect themselves even further by letting egg-laying insects know what was in store for their eggs. By producing brilliant autumn colors, the trees advertised their lethality. As insects evolved to avoid the brightest leaves, natural selection favored trees that could become even brighter.

"It was a beautiful idea," said Marco Archetti, a former student of Dr. Hamilton who is now at the University of Fribourg in Switzerland. Dr. Hamilton had Mr. Archetti turn the hypothesis into a mathematical model. The model showed that warning signals could indeed drive the evolution of bright leaves - at least in theory.

Another student, Sam Brown, tested the leaf-signal hypothesis against real data about trees and insects. "It was a first stab to see what was out there," said Dr. Brown, now an evolutionary biologist the University of Texas. He studied 262 tree species, noting the leaf color and number of aphid species specialized on them. Dr. Brown found that trees with bright autumn leaves tended to be the victim of more specialist aphids. The correlation supported the leaf-signal hypothesis. Dr. Hamilton did not argue that the evolution of leaf signals would make all trees brilliantly colored. Instead, he said, only species that were under heavy attack experienced this evolutionary pressure.

Dr. Hamilton died in 2000 at 63 as a result of complications from malaria he contracted while doing research in Africa. Only after his death did Dr. Archetti and Dr. Brown publish their collaborations with their mentor. The leaf-signal hypothesis was so provocative that other biologists began to test it. Dr. Snorre Hagen of the University of Oslo and colleagues studied a dozen mountain birch trees over three years, observing factors like brightness of leaves each fall and the level of insect damage the next spring. They found that birches with strong colors in the fall tended to suffer less damage from insects the next spring.

Dr. Archetti is also testing the leaf-signal hypothesis. Working with Dr. Simon Leather, an entomologist at Imperial College London, he has observed aphids laying eggs on bird cherry trees in the fall. As he reported in May in The Proceedings of the Royal Society of London, aphids prefer leaves that are still green, rather than yellow or red leaves. "This is the first basic prediction of the hypothesis, that aphids are more abundant on dull leaves," Dr. Archetti said.

While evidence from such studies is preliminary, Dr. Hamilton's students are encouraged. "It is supportive, but far from being robustly conclusive," Dr. Brown said.

The leaf-signal hypothesis has also drawn criticism, most recently from Dr. Wilkinson and Dr. H. Martin Schaefer, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Freiburg in Germany. In a paper to be published in Trends in Ecology & Evolution, Dr. Schaefer and Dr. Wilkinson argue that autumn colors are not sending messages to insects. It's wrong, but compelling, Dr. Wilkinson said.

Dr. Wilkinson and other critics point to a number of details about aphids and trees that do not fit Dr. Hamilton's hypothesis. Dr. William Hoch, a plant physiologist at the University of Wisconsin, argues that bright leaves appear on trees that have no insects to warn off. "If you are up here in the north in Wisconsin, by the time the leaves change, all the insects that feed on foliage are gone," Dr. Hoch said.

In their article, Dr. Schaefer and Dr. Wilkinson argue that a much more plausible explanation for fall colors can be found in the research of Dr. Hoch and other plant physiologists. Their recent work suggests that fall colors serve mainly as a sunscreen.

The interior of an autumn leaf is a frenzy of activity. Much of the chlorophyll and other equipment necessary for photosynthesis is being carefully dismantled, while the nutrients it contains, like nitrogen and phosphorus, are shipped into the tissue of the tree. The tree will need those nutrients to grow and reproduce in the spring.

The leaves need energy to send these reserves into the tree, which they can only get through photosynthesis. But because they have dismantled much of their light-harnessing equipment, it no longer works efficiently. Autumn leaves cannot capture all the sunlight striking them, and the leftover energy can build up in the leaf and cause damage to its tissue. "Sunlight in October isn't near as intense as in July," Dr. Hoch said, "but it can do more harm to a leaf."

Anthocyanins, the pigments that produce red and orange colors, appear to protect autumn leaves by blocking some of the sunlight. Dr. Hoch and his colleagues have found the most compelling evidence for this role. They raised normal trees along with mutants that could not produce anthocyanins. While the mutants thrived in a greenhouse, they could not ship nutrients out of their leaves in autumn sunlight.

Many plant physiologists see the protection provided by pigments as so important that there is not much left over for Dr. Hamilton's leaf-signal hypothesis to explain. "You may have a few instances where insects have some sort of relationship to color changes," Dr. Hoch said, "but it's almost certainly not a broad-based explanation. It doesn't hold any water."

Dr. Wilkinson speculates that some of the recent evidence in favor of Dr. Hamilton's signal hypothesis actually supports the sunscreen hypothesis. The link Dr. Hagen found between bright fall leaves and a lack of damage in spring may not be a result of trees' warning insects. Instead, the bright leaves might belong to trees that were doing a good job of protecting their leaves as they prepared for winter.

These arguments have not swayed Dr. Hamilton's former students, who argue that the leaf-signal hypothesis is still worth investigating. Dr. Brown believes that leaves might be able to protect leaves both from sunlight and from insects. Dr. Brown and Dr. Archetti also argue that supporters of the sunscreen hypothesis have yet to explain why some trees have bright colors and some do not. "This is a basic question in evolution that they seem to ignore," Dr. Archetti said. "You go to a forest, you see one tree is red and another is green. Why? They cannot explain this point."

"I don't think it's a huge concern," Dr. Hoch replied. "There's natural variation for every characteristic."

Still, the plant physiologists have more work to do. Some trees, like birch, produce no anthocyanins. Their yellow leaves are produced by carotenoids. During the growing season, carotenoids help chlorophyll absorb sunlight, but in the fall they do not shield the leaves. Dr. Hoch suspects that trees with yellow leaves must have some other way to protect their leaves in autumn, which he is now trying to find. Meanwhile, Dr. Archetti and Dr. Brown hope they can stimulate more experiments to test the leaf-signal hypothesis. "There are a series of steps you'd want to investigate on the tree side and the insect side," Dr. Brown said. Dr. Hamilton's students and their critics agree that the debate has been useful, because it has given them a deeper reverence for this time of year.

"People sometimes say that science makes the world less interesting and awesome by just explaining things away," Dr. Wilkinson said. "But with autumn leaves, the more you know about them, the more amazed you are."

Post Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:21 am

Sorry, got half way through and I need to leg it. Did they test this in a 'forest' containing evergreens and normal trees? See if the everygreens got gang banged by insects or not etc..........

Post Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:27 am

They didn't talk to the trees in north Georgia. If we have good rain, crisp cold changes, then lots of beautiful colors. When we have no rain, dry fall, then one day green and the next brown. That would mess with the insect theroy.

Post Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:37 am

tisk, all this messing up theorys, who will clean it up? * looks sideways at eskie*

Post Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:09 am

@Chips. Not as could be mentioned in this article. Evergreens have their own anti-pest defense don't they? Their tarry resin?

I'm not totally sold on this specific theorectical explanation but I like the idea that a tree isn't just spending energy changing colors for no reason at all.

@Fd, seems to me that when the weather is such that trees just go brown, it also may mean that it isn't a good year for the aphids either so the trees don't have to go through the effort.

Post Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:06 pm

*Emerges from shadows with dustpan and brush grumbling about fragmented theories*

So they're speculating that the leaves change colour in Autumn to protect them from insects? Seems a little inefficient to me, but I suppose that it is possible. I feel though, that the possibility of the tree "absorbing" chlorophyll is more likely to be true.

Edited by - esquilax on 10/20/2004 5:20:51 AM

Post Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:47 am

maybe they do it so they can look goot in photographs (?)

edit: suporting my theory: its been proven that fruit plants grow better quality fruits when exposed to better environment. meaing, you have nice music and stuff. something we ourselves would enjoy.

maybe the trees are just responding. to look good in photographs. those evergreens are prolly just antisocial.

Edited by - kimk on 10/20/2004 5:48:45 AM

Post Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:15 am

You know.... I used to be able to get away with telling the kids about the chlorophil thing...if they decide its somehting else...I hope its not going to be a long description o what I tell my little one LOL.
But I too was told from an early age that it was a chemical reaction in the leaves when the chlorophil was no longer present or needed.
So...now do I tell them that its to kep the bugs at bay??
Cheers


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Post Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:10 am

@Esqy: Some trees, at least, actually produce more coloring agent as the chlorophyll gets resorbed by those trees. So it isn't just a matter of a green mask being pushed aside to reveal other colors. The question is why go through the effort of creating more pigment when things are supposed to be winding down for the winter?

Post Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:08 am

They just have to spoil everything dont they

Post Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:10 am


The question is why go through the effort of creating more pigment when things are supposed to be winding down for the winter?


Do I sense Notes from a Big Country here, or is it just coincidence?

Post Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:26 pm

Clue me in please. Is that a book or a movie or something?

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