Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:58 pm
@bret, i didn't think for a second that you were 
@FD, I know exactly where you're coming from, my huge-bearded friend. I've suffered terribly from severe bouts of depression since my mid-teens. I've wandered aimlessly round the streets thinking about nothing but ending this terrible never-ending misery that I was trapped in. its also made me virtually a social cripple. its taken 2 decades almost before I could manage to go into a rom full of *strangers* without having panic attacks, and I've had terrible agoraphobia to boot. in my mid-to-late 20s it was like a box i couldn't get out of, i would dream about being at the bottom of holes or huge black walls going up around me. God only knows how at times I managed to keep going . I think it was just the stigma of "suicide is for losers" or that I didn't want to give satisfaction to certain people who were (and still are) my enemies. It never really goes away of course, as I'm sure you know. even in recent years I've been virtually a prisoner in my own home because i've had spells of weeks and months where i couldnt cope with going outside. No medication has ever helped (except the beta-blockers that I'm on now for my heart and bp) I just have to put up with it and find a way to get through the day. the current miserable state of the the world isn't helping.
@Ed, all those ant-depressant drugs are a goddam joke. i've tried almost the effing lot and they all make me feel worse, or so dam ill that i wished i was dead anyway. even Prozac just gives me a bad stomach. and nowadays the docs don't prescribe me anti-ds cos they have to watch my metabolic rate with all the other crap i have to take.
@dsq, you mean Emile Durkheim? I briefly came across hbis stuff when I was doing my teacher training in the mid 80s, was his main theme "collective representations" -the social power of ideas stemming from their development through the interaction of many minds. or something like that?
Edited by - Tawakalna on 10/16/2004 1:24:05 AM
@FD, I know exactly where you're coming from, my huge-bearded friend. I've suffered terribly from severe bouts of depression since my mid-teens. I've wandered aimlessly round the streets thinking about nothing but ending this terrible never-ending misery that I was trapped in. its also made me virtually a social cripple. its taken 2 decades almost before I could manage to go into a rom full of *strangers* without having panic attacks, and I've had terrible agoraphobia to boot. in my mid-to-late 20s it was like a box i couldn't get out of, i would dream about being at the bottom of holes or huge black walls going up around me. God only knows how at times I managed to keep going . I think it was just the stigma of "suicide is for losers" or that I didn't want to give satisfaction to certain people who were (and still are) my enemies. It never really goes away of course, as I'm sure you know. even in recent years I've been virtually a prisoner in my own home because i've had spells of weeks and months where i couldnt cope with going outside. No medication has ever helped (except the beta-blockers that I'm on now for my heart and bp) I just have to put up with it and find a way to get through the day. the current miserable state of the the world isn't helping.
@Ed, all those ant-depressant drugs are a goddam joke. i've tried almost the effing lot and they all make me feel worse, or so dam ill that i wished i was dead anyway. even Prozac just gives me a bad stomach. and nowadays the docs don't prescribe me anti-ds cos they have to watch my metabolic rate with all the other crap i have to take.
@dsq, you mean Emile Durkheim? I briefly came across hbis stuff when I was doing my teacher training in the mid 80s, was his main theme "collective representations" -the social power of ideas stemming from their development through the interaction of many minds. or something like that?
Edited by - Tawakalna on 10/16/2004 1:24:05 AM
