Esq to use Chips' excuse, my keyboard is there to contribute to my immune system

Sigs are so overrated. I would never think of us..uhm nevermind
If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?

*Shrugs* Have it your way then. Just don't come crying to me when you get struck down by influenza .

*Hands Taw some "Hershey's" confectionary*

if only someone would I'm desperate for some Reese's or a Cookies'n'Creme. so far only the Great Insurance Man in the Sky(scraper) has sent me supplies.

I've often thought that one of the few errors that the otherwise infallible govt of Tawakalnistan has made is the policy of cultural and economic isolation. I must have a word with the Interior Ministry regarding lifting of border controls and exchanges of trade.

meanwhile..

I thought everyone was supposed to clean their keyboards? a dirty keyboard is a shoorly the sign of a lazy disorganised slovenly individual, after all, how long does it take? a quick spray with cleaning-foam and a blast from the air can? less than 30seconds, and a clean keyboard gleams and says "I belong to a clean tidy person"

so who cleans their keyboard, and who doesn't?



Edited by - Tawakalna on 10/3/2004 3:24:58 AM

Esq I'll just send you some of the germs

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a question already raised in medical circles some years ago. the widespread use of antibiotics, and the post-war obsession with cleanliness and sterility, created and fed by advertisers' pogrom against evil "germs" has brought about a generation with reduced natural resistance to bacteria. So, a few years ago, enterprising and concerned doctors started shooting little kids with what was, essentially, dirt.

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BS gimme one news article and i'll belive you

it was in the news a few years ago iirc, concerned doctors were promoting the use of a cocktail of common microbes found in soil to increase kid's resistance to germs in the early years without resorting to antibiotics. I haven't heard anymore about it since then, it made a bit of a splash ontelly and radio for a couple of days then nada. I'll poke around and see what i can find.

ah I remember what I read about it now.

Hamilton, Garry. "Let them eat dirt," New Scientist, July 18, 1998, pp.26-31

it was dosage of household dust in order to build up immunities to allergies such as asthma. taken as a tablet or an injection. believe me now?

Edited by - Tawakalna on 10/3/2004 7:09:50 AM

@Viator:

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Now if he were born 10 years ago, he would know that peanuts could kill him, and leave well alone. (The parents are kinda nuts too)

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ROFLMAO! Was it intentional or just a coincidence?

On topic: yes, I've also read that overprotection from dust etc. may result in being more susceptible to astma and allergies, just as overusage of antibiotics may decrease resistance to germs and/or increase the germs' resistance to antibiotics. However, I still tend to think that the problem is not the existance of all anti-germ drugs, but rather their non-selective usage. There are germs that are potentially dangerous and cannot be effectively fought by our immune system, and thus it needs to be reinforced. I don't start taking up heaps of drugs as soon as I get symptoms of cold - I prefer some booze+hot tea+a hot bath instead. Still, I'm not inclined to follow Loc's behavior - for instance, tetanus does exist, and though the chances of getting it (or any other infection) are not 100%, some disinfection (at least internal ) should be used. Saliva could be ok if it were clean, but with all the stuff you eat and breath, you can never be sure. End of lecture.


Life is sexually transmitted

i thought there was a tetanus immunising shot that you take at birth? its too damned easy to contract.

oh and indeed, there are some diseases out there that our immune system can't fight effectively. but are you gonna sterilise everything and bring down your overall immune system just cause of the few superbugs that you might contract if your place weren't clean enough? the superbugs dont transmit themselves via dirt. they wont be superbugs then.

if we have a strong immune system, even when the uncurables like aids strike, we still may have an immune system strong enough to keep their own against flu viruses even when most of their numbers get struck down, meaning docs dont have to pump you with antibiotics, of which too much isn't too good. body becomes dependant.

Well, it seems that most of these "cleaning stuff" is aimed at evereyday germs that you pic up by playing walking around etc, this is not against aids and stuff. Which makes it pretty useless and only degrading your immune system

Sigs are so overrated. I would never think of us..uhm nevermind
Little Girl

I think the "tetanus shot" you get ever 5-10m years. In case you step on rust metal. To keep you from getting an infection. Still works and is still used. Got one a while back when I cut the end of my thumb off with a skill saw. Still hurts to get that shot too.

it hurts more than the tetanus jab to cut the end of your thumb off. I chopped the end of mine of with a craft knife a while back. but i took it to the hospital and they sewed it back on. with no anaesthetic. and i didn't scream or passout. it fookin ronked though, bejasus.

I was required to get some immunisation shots several years ago (inlcuding tetanus). As I recall, there was no pain whatsoever. Interesting.

Taw said:

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if only someone would I'm desperate for some Reese's or a Cookies'n'Creme. so far only the Great Insurance Man in the Sky(scraper) has sent me supplies.

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Don't blame me! I haven't seen any "Hershey's" products since 1996 and you have never sent me your PO Box!

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Esq I'll just send you some of the germs...

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*Arms self with can of disinfectant spray and waits by mailbox*

About antibiotics and super germs. It isn't just over prescription or over utilization. It also is a matter of under use as well.

First off, antibiotics do NOT work on viruses. So if you have the flu, taking an overdose of an antibiotic isn't going to do a thing about the influenza virus in you but your death will . Even so, too many people believe that antibiotics have to be taken to cure themselves of the flu and too many pharmacists/chemists seem willing to cooperate to make a sale. All that really happens is that whatever bacteria in you that may or may not be susceptible to the antibiotic you have taken will either be eradicated in you, or, if a few hardier ones survived, evolve into a stronger strain. Ergo, super bug. And, of course, you more than likely will have wreaked havoc to your own digestive system so that you'll suffer from some gastro-intestinal difficulties as well.

Secondly, because of the cost of antibiotics, it is an unfortunate truth that in lesser developed countries or in poorer areas, people do not take the full course and dose of the antibiotics that they ARE prescribed to take to eradicate a nasty bacterial illness. As soon as the symptoms subside but before the job is done, they often will stop taking the pills and sell the balance for the cash under the misguided assumption that reduced symptoms means recovery and cure. All this does is leave a hardier strain of the bacterium to regain momentum and beome even harder to kill... ergo super bug.

There currently is a growing tuberculosis crisis in the world. Once believed to have been brought under control worldwide, a strain that is highly resistant to antibiotics has developed mainly due to the "poverty" model I just described.

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All I do is turn by keyboard upside down upon occasion and bang it about a bit to shake out cookie crumbs and sundry as may have fallen between the cracks ... that's if I can't blow the lint and dust out .

Edited by - Indy11 on 10/4/2004 6:40:31 AM

"All I do is turn by keyboard upside down upon occasion and bang it about a bit to shake out cookie crumbs and sundry as may have fallen between the cracks ... that's if I can't blow the lint and dust out"

while I'm sure that's just an EddyH wind-up, if it were true I'd be horrified.