overdrive on a 9800 pro... (taw, your help is appreciated)

Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:25 pm by Aod

In defence of my thread, Back of you hijackers!!!

ok, you can come back now.

Back to video cards, the situation of people thinking that
"more video ram = Better performance", is getting out of hand,
a friend of mine wanted to buy one of these (courtesy of PC world UK):

HIS Excalibur ATI Radeon 9200SE 128MB DDR TV-Out/DVI (PCI) - Retail (GX-013-HT)
Powered by ATI RADEON? 9200SE, the Excalibur RADEON?9200SE enables end users to experience the most realistic, life-like images, and visual effects on the next generation 3D games or multimedia application. With advanced graphics architecture, Excalibur RADEON? 9200 provides fast performance to accelerate all popular 3D applications. Among other high-end features, Excalibur RADEON? 9200SE supports Micosoft DirectX 8.1 for faster gaming, SMARTSHADER? technology for more complex and realistic lighting effects and SMOOTHVISION? technology for smoother-looking images. Excalibur RADEON? 9200SE also features VIDEO IMMERSION? II and FULLSTREAM? technologies for unprecedented video quality.

- ATI Radeon 9200SE GPU running at 180MHz
- 128MB DDR Memory
- 32-bit memory interface
- PCI Bus
- Features ATI's SMARTSHADER? and SMOOTHVISION?, and HYPER? II technologies
- SMARTSHAER? technology supports DirectX®8.1 and enables more complex and realistic lighting effects
- Sharper-looking 3D graphics with ATI SMOOTHVISION? technology
- Dual display support with HYDRAVISION?
- Integrated TV-Out support up to 1024 x 768 resolution
- Integrated DVI-compliant TMDS transmitter

Price: £67.50+Vat

and i could not for the life of me persuade him otherwise.

speaking of harddrives, i have a IBM OEM 16.8Gb HDD
with a corrupted Mac OSX on it, and it cannot for the life of me
be fromatted, its a good HDD, 10000 Rpm and all, but its totally
buggered beyod that. (when i plug into a computer, the Bios recognises it
and thet beyond that, it dosent exist.

Speaking of Vid card cooling, is this:

Arctic Cooling Rev.4 ATI 3 (9800 Pro/9800XT) VGA Silencer (HS-004-AR)
The Arctic Cooling ATI Silencer 3 is ideal for ATI Radeon 9800 Pro and 9800XT based graphic cards. It offers substantially better cooling performance over the ATI reference cooler. With the Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer makes use of DHE (Direct Heat Exhaust) system. This carries the warm exhaust air directly from inside the case, thus the inside case temperatures are lower. By the large aluminum radiator box with copper base plate it needs only a slowly turning exhaust fan, in order to keep things cool. Thus operating at a very low noise level!

Price: £13.90 (£16.33 Including VAT at 17.5%)

a good card cooler?

Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:54 pm by Xsonic901

I have an ATI Radeon 9550 256Mb, which I can clearly find the "Overdrive". Must just be a Problem with the 9800Pro. You can find it on the X800 and 9800XT. Maybe contact ATI? Or go to their website, www.ati.com. I had a look there, but not for long.

Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:05 pm by Tawakalna

what do you mean, you can't format it, AoD? oyu should be able to fdisk it and delete the non-Dos partition, and XP/2K setup is even better at sorting partitions out. Once you re-partition you shouldn't have a problem with formatting to either FAT32 or NTFS. if youre stuck, post it to Uncle Taw in sunny Staffordshire and I'll fix it for you

Radio Free Tawakalnistan

Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:53 am by Aod

Nay taw, as i said, the bios recognises that a IDE peripheral
has been attached, but then in Windoze/Dos/fdisk all have no
idea it exists!

BTW!!! my Graphics Card Screwed up yesterday, at night, i know
its a hardware problem (because the software is fine) and i know
that its the graphics card because the onboard cr@phics drive the
screen fine, and the ram is fine too, and the whole motherboard
is fine too, that said, i haven't checked the Mobo so thoroughtly,
i'll go cannibalise my sisters Vaio for bits so i can test it.

<EDIT> New siggy \/ </EDIT>

Edited by - Aod on 9/21/2004 8:58:44 AM

Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:24 am by Indy11

Extremely dumb question so please forgive if it is insulting to you but, er.... jumpers? Slave? Master?

As far as your friend and his video card are concerned, didn't he notice that the gpu is only running at 180mHz

Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:04 am by Chips

Taw - Overclockers site is REALLY lacking in one major thing.

Shipping details. I looked in the "Terms" part - but without calling for details they really should have a "Shipping" part - stating how much roughly it costs for some items (per kilo or whatever), as well as what days/times deliveries can occur.

I just want to know if i can get it delivered either Friday night, or early saturday morning - and how much it will cost too!

Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:42 am by Tawakalna

thx for the feedback and duly noted, Chips, I will mention your observation to the boss tomorrow. Actually the sites lacking in a lot of areas, mostly non-core products, a task which I've been given to sort out (hence why no daytime posting from me anymore!) I actually have to work for a living now

_________________________________________

AoD, i got your e-mail. But I had trouble relaying a reply back to you and get into Hotmail (again) so to save time, here's my reply..

that effect is exactly what I had with my Powercolor Raddy at Christmas time

and it failed right afterwards. Putting some thermal paste and a h'sink on won't affect it one way or the other, and certainly didn't cause it. it's a memory issue in the ICs caused by ineffective heat dispersal and a bad batch of semi-conductors from Wang-Po-Tek electronics, Taiwan. There ain't nowt you can do but take it back. Did you get it off us? (OCUK - you should see the stuff i get to play with every day!) hint - if you want a good card but don't want to pay branded prices, get an OCUK own brand (you can thank me later

)

not advertising I'm just trying to save the lad some bunce!

(you have checked the obvious like your AGP dividers and multipliers are set correctly in't BIOS?)

Radio Free Tawakalnistan

Tue Sep 21, 2004 11:56 am by Chips

Well, if you want feedback...and they have someone who makes the site doing nothing....

Then being able to select a tab to sort things would be good - eg - tab to select amount of memory on Graphics cards, Size of disk drives, size of monitor screens, you get the idea - basically a filter.

To be picky - the ONLY way to get back to the main page is the banner. However, for the dumb that isn't that obvious unless they try to hover/click on it.
Could do with a "HOME" button almost - or front page button.

It says all online purchases are using their secure server - but for dummies they might not know what that is. Some businesses have a popup link to tell you just what that is/how safe etc - and what the risks actually are!

Those sprung to mind

Edited by - Chips on 9/21/2004 12:56:54 PM

Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:07 pm by Tawakalna

thx chum. all useful stuff. I'm sure appropriate changes can be made

now then, onto this from AoD..

"Nay taw, as i said, the bios recognises that a IDE peripheral
has been attached, but then in Windoze/Dos/fdisk all have no
idea it exists!"

if the BIOS recognises it's there, then you would see it in DOS fdisk as *something* at least, and at the partition screen in NT/2K/XP setup as well, unless the drive's proper knackered. I've had fonk drives before that you could see in BIOS but would never partition and never format. If its an old drive (you said about 20gig, right?) then it's well and truly fooked. throw it in the bin. or if you madly truly deeply want to see if anything can be done with it, send it to me and I'll have a look at it for you

if it's an IBM, is it a Deathstar? if so forget it, you're going nowhere (but the new IBM/Hitachi drives are excellent, I must say)

btw that's a very good cooler for the Raddy, I use something similar myself. they're a bugger to fit though

Wed Sep 22, 2004 3:00 am by Esquilax

You shouldn't need any extra cooling unless you intend to SERIOUSLY overclock a graphics card, especially if you have good case ventilation. My Radeon 9700 for example, can be overclocked from 275/270 to 340/310 without any problems, and that is with stock cooling. Also remember when OC'ing that the RAM must be cooled as well, as it can run bloody hot during overclocking. Indeed, if I had a decent set of heat-spreaders on my Radeon I'd be able to go much higher than 310MHZ

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Edited by - esquilax on 9/22/2004 4:03:05 AM

Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:17 am by Aod

ok, thanks Tawakalna, is there a problem with your e-mail?

if not can we converse by e-mail, its better than wasting forum space

my NEW email adress is [email protected]

Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:12 am by Tawakalna

until NTL fix their server(s) I can receive but not send, so mail me at my Hotmail /MSN addy, [email protected]

Radio Free Tawakalnistan

Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:21 am by Aod

you want a gmail account Taw?

hotmail is the definition of CR@P e-mail

Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:21 pm by Tawakalna

No. Hotmail is fine for me, it serves my purposes and does what it's supposed to. but thx for offering

Radio Free Tawakalnistan

Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:21 pm by Aod

okay.

Taw, what kinda proof of purchase would i need to return my fonken card?
my dad "lost" the receipt (threw away more like) and the only proof of the purchase
is his credit card statement showing the purchase, just for reference, the card
was installed on april the 24th 2004, (my birthday), so on friday, it will be
five months old.

do you know whether i can get a refund/replacement for this card, could you
possibly budge it in my favour? i'll probably call OCUK tech support tomorrow,
when i have a copy of my dad's credit card statement, can you possibly help
with this?

according to my friend, the online server should keep a reccord of all the invoices
but of course, they aren't under public access. but would the bank statement be proof
enough for our (my) access to the invoice?

Even worse, my fan controller, (the £40 akasa one) has also gone skitzo, flashing screen
and not responding to any button-pushing on the front, i dont have the receipt, but also
i have already modded it, so that it is connected to my CPU cooler (thank god that still works)
can i return modded goods? probably not.

anyways, can you send your reply to [email protected], because its the only mail
client that i can access at school (i cant even access these forums) anyway thanks for your help
Taw, i feel as though i know you already (even though i dont know what you look like)

The Fallen Angel

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