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terraforming.. no longer FL?

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Post Tue Jul 27, 2004 9:58 pm

terraforming.. no longer FL?

terraforming mars

At the Astrobiology Science Conference earlier this year, scientists and science fiction writers -- from NASA researcher Chris McKay to author Kim Stanley Robinson -- faced off on the promises and pitfalls of terraforming Mars.

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Post Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:09 pm

I've heard about this stuff, pretty crazy. I'm no scientist so I can't say that we can or can't terraform Mars, but it would be amazing if we could.

Post Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:58 pm

It's way to far out of reach at the moment, but it's still interesting to speculate. It'd certainly be an out there holiday destination.

Post Tue Jul 27, 2004 11:50 pm

It'd be interesting to see for a while. But it's too small for effective habitation .....

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:23 am

What does FL have to do with terraforming?

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:41 am

Get with the program Esq! Terraforming was a fairly hot topic in FL, everybody was terraforming in FL.

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:16 am

Most planets on FL were terraformed, esq.
It would be cool if we could terraform mars, but can you imagine how isolated you would be from humanity? Everyone would have to use satilite internet to play FL online!

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:14 am

I prefer the term "shake and bake colony" myself

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:25 am

All this presumes there was ever any life on mars. Doubtful.

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:39 am

Yeah I heard aabout something like this on TLC. They were talking about what we would do when the Sun died out(I also think they said when it died it would explode, but I'm not to sure about that). They talked about moving to other planets, and for Mars they would send up some kind of robots that would pollute it.

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:05 am

yea, sun blows up. its not 'mass'-ive enough to form a black hole, so it becomes a white dwarf. but before that, it becomes a red giant. the sun'll grow so huge it'll eat up all the planets up till probably mars, earth definitely. this is all in the life cycle of a star. you'll probably get a big nova when the thing actually blows.

but before that, the sun might actaully give out enough heat and light to 'fertilise', so to speak, the frozen planets, like neptune, or maybe some moons, like europa and its ice surface. the red giant stage, whilst not lasting as long as this current stable (middle age) stage, will still last quite a while, possibly long enough to allow life to form.

oh and back to the debate, i dont think terraforming mars would be possible, unless we also implanted the core of the planet with a uber huge electromagnet. as you know, its gravity that keeps the atmosphere intact. otherwise, all the atmospheric molecules, particularly those essentical to life like oxygen, would just gain enough energy to diffuse into space. we all know mars has a seriously weak magnetic field. so it wont be enough to sustain a full life-sustaining atmosphere. - thats my 2 cents

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:08 am

Everybody was terraforming in Freelancer? I don't remember that.

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:17 am

they were in california minor. if you played the storyline, you'd know.

trent: seen junko jane?
bar tender: she asked me to tell you to meet her on the terraforming platform on california minor

the conv went something like that.

but thats going off tangent from the topic.

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 3:44 am

I read somewere that scientists believed massive industrialistion i.e pollute the planet to create a more stable atmosphere then have plants to convert the carnon dioxide produced to oxygen. Or it was something like that anyway

Post Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:49 am


but before that, the sun might actaully give out enough heat and light to 'fertilise', so to speak, the frozen planets, like neptune, or maybe some moons, like europa and its ice surface. the red giant stage, whilst not lasting as long as this current stable (middle age) stage, will still last quite a while, possibly long enough to allow life to form.
In it's Red Giant stage, the Sun will actually give out less 'useful' radiation than before, plus, it's instability and inner turbulences will produce violent solar flares that will make it even harder for carbon-based life to form.

oh and back to the debate, i dont think terraforming mars would be possible, unless we also implanted the core of the planet with a uber huge electromagnet. as you know, its gravity that keeps the atmosphere intact. otherwise, all the atmospheric molecules, particularly those essentical to life like oxygen, would just gain enough energy to diffuse into space. we all know mars has a seriously weak magnetic field. so it wont be enough to sustain a full life-sustaining atmosphere.
Not necessarilly. Gravity depends on the mass, not the electromagnetic fields. True, Earth's EM field helps keep the atmosphere 'appropriate' for us, but by making it 'layered' and keeping most of the oxygen low down, while 'pushing' hydrogen high. With an artificial atmosphere, we can produce a similar effect even w/o a strong EM core/fields.


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