Horse meat is very very nice actually - and not fatty at all - good lean meat. The french eat it alot - and to be honest, the only reason why some might disagree is cause of the lil girls idea of horses.....we used to keep em, but to be honest.....if the local supermarket sold horse mince meat - i would be tucking in - it tasted great.

Rabbit and hare i have both eaten at variuos times (shootin ) - and you can eat hare from supermarkets am sure - if not, the butchers certainly offer hare and rabbit meat............very tasty too.

We eat Venison (Deer) at Xmas instead of turkey (along with goose, duck and pheasant - which is a bit gamie but okay in flavour )

The others i haven't tried, but to be honest, i don't think i could eat cat.......and i would be affraid that the stupidity of dogs might be catching - so i would probs leave it alone

On a lighter note.......did anyone see Keith Floyd doing his cooking sketch with loads of ostriches? Before they tucked into what he was trying to make, he was going to scramble and egg - and that egg was massive! Think he said it was the equivalent of 30-40 large chickens eggs. It looked about the size of a football (soccer ball for the americans here )

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Edited by - Chips on 2/26/2004 5:27:57 AM

@ff there are some places on the planet where cats and dogs are available in the best restaurants and indeed you can choose the one you want from cages (much the same way as fish and lobster are chosen in some western establishments) and they will prepare it to your requirements
indeed i remember a documentary on the subject where a family were out for thier daughters birthday party ,she was accorded the honour of picking dinner,she chose a rather fine alsation (not everyones idea of a birthday meal but there that was a special treat)
indeed in some cultures ,due to the value of livestock ,they dont eat the meat but instead drain and drink the animals blood
that leaves the animal alive and can produce more
whereas to slaughter it would provide only 1 batch of meat

Have had horse meat, bison, and venison. Horse meat, to me, has too much cultural baggage attached to it to be enjoyable. Bison is very hearty and beefy tasting but not that easy to get. Venison usually is too tough for me because I haven't had it when decently prepared.

The best tasting lean red meat steak (other than beef or bison, of course) that I have ever had is ostrich. I was totally amazed! It is a dark red meat that browns up very nicely and it has a texture like beef and a hint of beefiness to it and yet it is not stringy, sinewy and tough.

do the venison in a slow cooker or in a casserole dish on low overnight (gas mark S or 1, no more) and it's lovely, in a nice herby casserole

Thnx.

Right now, across the Hudson River in New Jersey's northwestern counties , there is a white-tailed deer overpopulation crisis (and a black bear overpopulation crisis) but the local greenies are up in arms about what to do about it.

I suppose we'll have som winter kill problems this year but the hunting quotas were not raised. I'll have to wait until next Fall to see if I can manage the slow cook you recommend. .... So there's no such thing as a juicy and tender medium rare venison steak?

I've been a vegiterian for 6 years now, why should i stop now?

The animals (pigs, cows, chickens) are packed together, in small areas, and some die in diseas. Lot of them can't move or turn around. The whole life they get to stand in small boxes, and some never see sunlight.

For chickens, here in Sweden, they're feed up until they are good for eating. Then they get shipped/driven to some place, where big rotating blades chop of their heads. Sometimes they don't die, and just bleed to death. Or, as most people do nowadays, why don't just gas the poor creatures?

If it is hens, they first get feed up, until they can give eggs. Then they are packed into small cages (0.5 x 0.5 metres here in Sweden, and that is very nice to the hens...), and have to lay eggs the rest of their lifes. After that, when they are good for eating, they get shipped to some place, where they get their head chopped of, or are gased.

By the way, all you non-veggs, see this.


Edited by - Orillion v3.6.4 on 2/26/2004 12:16:54 PM

Chips - True, but I am stating that chicken, more so than red meat, is more prone to bacteria when it is in its raw state.

Taw - I was waiting for your "You're sick" post. You are getting a bit predictable, old son . Tell me more about Soylent Green. I'm actually thinking about creating a topic on it.

Steel - Some Australians do eat kangaroo, but I haven't tried it. It is supposed to be beef-ish, but very lean as you said. As for ostrich and crocodile, etc, I cannot say.

Theres a restaurant in China somewhere which has MICE/RATS as a main dish. In fact all their dishes revolve around the rodents. I saw it on TV. Pretty nasty stuff. *shudder*

They eat ANYTHING in China. *SIGHS* Wish I lived there...

-OFFICIAL AGENT OF THE FEDERATED STATES OF MICRONESIA-

I don't. Not enough space; everything is crammed together. I'll keep my nice big backyard thanks!

@Indy11

Bison is picking up in the US. Ted's Montana grill has several in atlanta area and pushes bison big time. The local, Kroger, Publix ect are starting to carry fresh ground bison too. Never have tried it yet. Beef gives nme fits and I think bison might too.

Edit - add- I am still waiting *no pun intended* for a veggy version of spam. *Ducks flying utensiles*


Finalday

Habaq Mot / Aspazomai Thanatos / Capere Obitus... /Keith Green\ (1953-1983)

Edited by - Finalday on 2/27/2004 4:53:32 PM

@Esq,

Soylent Green is a mass-produced food substitute that looks like green soap and is made from dead people, in the Charlton Heston film of the same name. Its a world where food and water are short, the climate has got hotter, food is grown in sealed off and heavily guarded farms and millions live in cramped run down cities roughly lorded over by a wealthy elite, mid 21st century. Euthanasia is legal and considered a civic duty, and if you're tired of life you can walk into a self-euthansia centre, where you are drugged and lethally injected whilst subject to an audio-visual fest. Your remains go to body disposal where they're secretly made into.. Soylent Green by the government.

*Chucks ladle at finalday* STOP THE PUNS!

Alright, I've had bison ****y before but that was when I was in St. Louis and they only had a small bit of it. It was like super good though. I didn't know that Kroger was starting to carry it. I live right down the street from one and I've never seen bison there. But on the veggy topic, I can't switch off of meats.

<<<<<<<<DANGER, BIASED RANT AHEAD>>>>>>>>>

Alright, meat is like the meat in my diet. It is vital to my life. It provides the beef in my beef stew, the beef in my tacos, the beef in my steak, the beef in my hamburger and the beef in everything else I eat. To strip me of meat would be to strip me of life itself.
I am notorious for eating a lot and actually losing weight. I am seriously light yet I eat a lot. The other day, my family was eating turkey and stuffing with green beans and I cleaned the whole dinner out pretty much by myself. That was some good food though. Sometimes I won't eat as much if it's not good but I'll still eat it if it's edible. I have eaten nearly two whole racks of hot 'n spicy ribs in one sitting. Yet I still weigh only about 110 lbs.
Considering my multiple miles of bike riding a day in cold weather, and up to ten in good weather, I do burn a lot of calories dodging school buses and soccer moms in SUVs. My opinion is that meat is what gives me the energy to keep up my lifestyle, even if it is mostly sitting here typing things like this.

<<<<<<<IF YOU CAN SEE THIS, YOU SURVIVED THE RANT>>>>>>>

This has been another SpamSightful post by Eh_Steve.
Every 4 Seconds someone in the world opens a can of Spam. I just post it.

Since we have a lot of good cooks at TLR,and staying with the veggy topic, does anyone have a good potatoe soup recipe? Trying for supper here and need new ideas

Finalday

Habaq Mot / Aspazomai Thanatos / Capere Obitus... /Keith Green\ (1953-1983)