It serves them right. Someone needed to say it on their forums, you were just the first from here to do it.

*Raises glass and salutes Stinger

man they have long posts lol


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hmmm, best read I've had for a long time. Always good to see St'n'gr in action.

Screw maturity! I want to grow up and be just like Stinger!

You were just ichting to go at them weren't you Stinger

Very nice! That's how I like to see it, profound, solid and argumentative conversation performed by "The Stinger" You are a prime example of how conversations/debates should be performed

Stinger, I salute thee!

Thank you, thank you. I tried to put a lot of research into the points before posting them to ensure I was coming off as somewhat well informed and logical. The responses thus far have been pretty solid and not flaming. When you're passionate about something you bound to defend it, and that's been pretty much proven by the replies.

My biggest counter-point obviously was the inability to play on-line against others. Sure Privateer and Elite didn't have those capabilities either so it only makes sense that fans of those games would enjoy the playing experience offered up by X2. But it also proves the point about comparing apples to apples at the same time. The X2 folks really focused on the joystick issue and hammered us pretty hard for being fans of FL. I did want to see how they reacted when they same difficult questions were posed to them about their beloved game. Same basic effect that had here (just not as beligerant as it was when it was our turn in the fire). At least thus far there's been some mutual respect adherred to from everyone in that thread. FL had MP playability from the get go (even though I'm still a little miffed there wasn't more enphasis put on the aspect during the beta process by the testers). If more focus had been done on the MP portion it would have only been better once it went gold. (believe me when I say I tried everything in my power to get others to focus more on MP). But as it turned out, the SP portion of the game is what got the most focus and thus the SP campaign turned out to bt pretty well designed and mostly bug free when it was release.

Case in point, only patch to be released for FL revolved around what? Server side issues...MP fix only. How many patches have been release for X2 now?

I can not wait until the On-line portion becomes a reality for X2 to have my chance to review that as well. "different game" be damned, they will need the same software to participate, just like FL and then we can truly compare apples to apples.

i like any space game lol


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Waaaaah! Linky no worky!

Yes, I noticed that too! I don't know what Stinger has done, but the entire Egosoft site is offline for already a couple of hours!!

Speak up Sting, what the hell did you do ?

So. Is it me or is it Egosoft? Link's not good for me either.

Heh heh... perhaps a flame war did start and everybody got so boisterous they crashed the server or somthing

Nah its Egosoft. Site has been really crap today.

Good post by Stinger although the majority of points revolve around multiplayer which X2 was never going to have. cant remember the rest of the points as I cant read the post!!! Joystick support has been really patchy so far but in 1.2 seems to have sorted out most of the remaining issues.

Number of patches = 2 so far. Not exactly terrible although more than FL (as Stinger pointed out).

Also surprised that no-one has started flaming, perhaps some of the banning that was done actually worked!

TC

Finally got to take a short look.

It will soon come to flaming I think. Funny how fans of a game cannot allow that there is any fault or flaw in what they like. I guess it is some illogical reaction that a slight upon their favorite game is one upon their own persons.

I get to see at last. Stinger, you are absoutly right. I was quite mad at Egosoft for the first few days after I started playing for joystick trouble and especialy lack of instruction. The cutscenes are almost humerous etc.

Having said that, I'm sorry, but I have to say this... in FL people go through special trouble to remove the cutscenes! And yes, vertical learning curve, but once you do learn it's pretty easy to manage and allows you to be in two (or three, or four...) places at once.

But, I'm not going to try to tip anybody one way or the other. Both great games. They have thier differences, we all have our favorite. It's almost like a best ship discussion. We all fly each ship, and still don't agree