i thought you'd been married long enough to realise that's the only way to get things done. forget all this talking and discussing business. just go and get stuff and when your woman asks what it is, lie. I do and I get loads of stuff. Lie about what it is, what its for, what it does, how much it costs. They'll never even bother to question you if it's technical computer stuff, and you can always say it'll help the kid(s) with their education as they get older!