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Furthering my education... 3rd edition

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Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:31 am

Furthering my education... 3rd edition

Random musings and Fox news have produced the following 2 questions...

1: London has roughly one camera for every 14 people! Acording to people who know these things, Londoners and all of England in general are the most watched people in the world. Do you notice? Do you care? The PC'ness mongers do, but why? If you get spotted, it was by a PUBLIC camera, so you must have been in PUBLIC and expected to be seen anyway. If you want privacy I bet there is not one camera in your house.

2: What does the world think of Bill O'Riley? If I spelled his last name wrong, 'tis because my last name is Riley

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:29 am

who the **** is bill o'reilly??!

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:37 am

never heard of bill o'reily. is he an author?
as for london cameras, i dont live in london.
This is turning into a bit of a boring thread.


"ive got an attitude of everything i've ever wanted"
Zeroing TIE's Since 1993

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:48 am

never heard of bill o`riley either any chance of telling us who he is bob

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:40 am

Don't notice the cameras too often, they're normally quite high up on buildings. They help the police a lot though when it comes to monitoring drug dealers at night or catching silly arseholes vandalising things. Also the buses round here have cameras in the drivers seat facing the door, so that anyone who gets on the bus is caught on camera. If you get in a fight/rob someone/assault the driver etc. the driver can just check through the footage and find the face of the guy who commited the crime and submit it to the police.
As for whether the police actually bother to do anything with the info they get given is another story altogether
As for Bill O'Reilly, isn't he a newsreader on FoxNews or something, i did a little google on him and it would seem he's either loved or hated?

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Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:57 am

I left wigan 11 years ago...and to be honest was glad to leave, it was getting stupidly violent at the weekends. It actually got to the point where if you didn't see three stabbing victims in one night and a bunch of flowers on the high street on a saturday, there was something very wrong. Anyway, my point...!....about 6 years ago the police finally decided enough is enough and installed cameras every 50 metres in the town....and its not a small town. They even set up a "temporary police station" above one of the shops on the high street that they use at weekends.

They now boast a 2 minute response time to any incident within a mile of the town centre. Very impressive. The stabbings have calmed down a lot (so I hear) but there is still an underlying sense of violence when you walk around at pub closing time.

So my point is that I think security cameras are a good thing. I have no objection to them whatsoever. They actually make me feel a little bit more confident when I'm out late at night. To be honest, I wish they'd just do this in every major town in the country and we might actually see a vast reduction in lad-ite alcohol-related "crime".

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 11:13 am

the "spy" cameras that the cops and the council put up in our town centre got shot out with air rifles and the speed cameras get burnt out. I have no idea who did the latter, prob an irate persecuted motorist who felt the secret camera on the A34 just outside Wolstanton was unjust and took matters into his own hands with a can of petrol. must be one hell of a guy.

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:26 pm

i really get pissed off with people complaining about speed cameras. its like having a go at the police for introducing speed limits or something. If you dont want a ticket, slow the **** down, its as easy as that.

Then they go on about how they dont have a problem with the system, its just the 'sneaky' way that they get caught out speeding so they want the speed cameras to be painted yellow. I bet they would want the vice squad to show put a big neon pink POLICE sign on their wired brothels, or get the undercover police to wear uniforms. The only reason they want the speed cameras visible is so they can slow down in time and then speed up once theyve past it. I say ****'em. If they dont want a ticket, they know what they can do. If they dont want to be caught out they shouldnt be doing anything wrong. I welcome speed cameras, in fact, they should be hidden better. get those speed camera signs down as well



"ive got an attitude of everything i've ever wanted"
Zeroing TIE's Since 1993

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:14 pm

I'm fine with speed cameras, but when they place a speed camera around a corner, hidden, and in the exact same place where the sign is that tells you the speed limit changes from 100 to 40. There is no way you could slow down in time, and nearly everyone going at or near the speed limit is caught, just because were not given time to slow down.

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:26 pm

@Griff: Sounds a bit like Holland and their speed-cams.

Edit: Damn spelling.

- I'm not crazy, I'm a car. And if you don't believe me, you can get out and walk home. -

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:24 pm

ive never had that Grif, just plain, in sight, suburban areas with a cam hid in a tree and people have put cardboard signs and stuff informing about the camera. Jesus, i woulda thought they were keen to get motorists to slow down in town centers.

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:29 pm

yes well you don't live in Australia do you. In Sydney its a bit better as they have a massive "SPEED CAMERA IN USE" signs and other warning slogans such as "POLICE TARGETTING SPEEDING", "DOUBLE DEMERIT POINTS THIS SEASON", "A MICROSLEEP CAN KILL IN SECONDS" and the famous "HOW FAST ARE YOU GOING NOW? (insert pic of mean policemans head)"

But in Queensland (not sure where else), its another story. There are NO signs, and they always hide them in evil places.

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:44 pm

I wonder why governments bother with speed cameras at all! There's a very simple solution to the speeding problem: issue a law that prohibits the automobile industry to make cars faster than [insert national speed limit here.

Same regulation applies to imported cars. There are always foreign tourists driving from their home countries of course, and some car-geeks that know how to tinker with their engines, but I guarantee you, overall, speeding will go down.

Post Fri Jan 16, 2004 7:22 pm

Speed cameras don't seem to make any difference, but when the statistics go down here in Aus., the government takes all the credit. They don't bother to mention the millions that they make each financial year though...

Post Sat Jan 17, 2004 5:10 am

@FF: What about autobahns? (sp?) plus when you need to overtake someone, you might go over the limit etc. There are always exceptions though. When im on a motorway and theres no one about, i fecking scream it. No kids gonna run out in front of me in the middle of chuffin nowhere

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