@SS,

I've only heard of City of Lost Children before. The other excape me.

When I bought the DVD, I found out there was two versions of The Rocky Horror Picture Show. A US and UK version. The UK version is the orignal, then somethings were cut to make it the US version. But it's basicaly the same movie.

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@Rilms, the director of City of Lost Children also directed Delicatessen (his first film) & Amelie. The director of Brazil also directed 12 Monkeys, The Fisher King & Time Bandits. The director of Dark City also directed The Crow (the first one).

Sir S

I've seen the Crow. That was a good movie. Tis a shame Bruce Lee's son died....

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Alex Proyas? Dark City was indeed very, very good.

I'm not so keen on dark city....I mean it was an interesting idea and all but it seemed a little campy to me......

I also wanted to supliment your list of Terry Giliam movies.....there was also the adventures of baron munchausen
also all of the Monty Python movies were co-directed by Terry Gilliam.


Good?....Bad?......I'm the guy with the gun.

what a good choice of films!

Brazil, great film, much under-rated, I was never too sure of Jonathan Pryce as Sam, he just struck me as a little too old. Great choice in Baron Munchausen though, which is my fav. Gilliam film along with 12 Monkeys.

Anyone seen Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas? i read the book some years ago, not seen't film.

Cité des Enfants Perdus & Delicatessen, again great choices. What a shame jeunet & Caro agreed to do Alien Resurrection also known as P.o.S

Dark City? enjoyable 90 minutes and a good ending but it didn't really convince, the sets just looked like cardboard movie sets and i didn't engage with any of the characters and it just kept reminding me of the all of the above films and everything else it ripped off. stylish but thats about all it was. Plus I don't really like William Hurt, he's always so earnest and decent. if you like Dark City then i recommend Vana Espuma (Idle Mist) which deals with much the same territory in a similar way but is genuinely scary.

I've never seen the Crow. I don't think i'd like it. Seems all style and no substance.

I agree with you about Dark City - all my friends raved about it to the point of explosion - when I finally got around to seeing it, I did enjoy it, but I felt the acting was a bit wooden and the sets looked like you could blow them over...all of which was a little too distracting from what actually was a very good idea for a movie.

I disagree about the crow though, its got a great deal of substance, and the style is really only appealling to fans of the cure, the sisters of mercy and my bloody valentine. But it does has an unmistakeable level of cool.

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - well I watched the first half of it after a "very good night out" with some friends, and then promptly hurled my guts up for 2 hours. Not a film I'm gonna watch again in a hurry

Now, the question is, did you throw up because of your night out or the movie?

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its a very good question...but I would definitely say that it was a combination of the two

it's really quite a repulsive story isn't it? Funny, bizarre, but not very nice really.

Brazil was on the BBC over chrimbo - but I didn't watch it, Red Dwarf was on BBC2. Twelve Monkeys is an awesome film, Terry Gilliam is great, although I don't recall seeing him in any of the Python films. This thread seems to be focussing on the more obscure films, and I am not really an obscurist - the most obscure film I've ever seen is Withnail and I (which is set in London and my hometown, Penrith).

Terry does have the odd cameo in some Python films, aside from being director/animator, usually as a thing or an oik, invariably covered in dirt. Patsy in the Holy Grail, a jailer and a Prophet in LoB, various cr*ppy joes in Brazil such as the Smoking Man in Shangri-la Towers, and the Man with the Rock in Jabberwocky.

as for obscurism, it's not a case of seeking out fims that are obscure per se, it's simply that mainstream cinema isn't always very satisfying, it often fails to explore complex themes because it's mass entertainment produced usually only to make money. While there are many big-budget fims that i admire and think are superb, there are just as many worthy independent films made on shoestring budgets that appeal to me just as much if not more. sometimes i want more than a just a couple of hours of escapism.

Have any of you guys seen "28 days later" yet? I watched it sky box office the other night and was really impressed. Not bad at all for a british horror flick. Not bad at all.

I found it very disappointing. Not without its moments though, I was genuinely scared in the church, and the grainy video of deserted London was exceedingly well done (also cramped the camera angles which helped) and the Infected were convincingly single-minded. Oh yeh the taxi in the tunnel was good too. Then thats pretty much it, goes in to cliche-ville after that, the acting is wooden especially the kid Hannah, her dad's "death" is totally predictable and complete rubbish sorry and Christopher Eccleston is just pointlessly affected as the nutty Major. The entire plot is lifted from Day of the Triffids/Night of the Comet/Survivors/The Quiet Earth and lacks either's redeeming features. Rubbish ending* too, possibly Danny Boyle's worst film to date. But it wasn't uniformly bad and there's a good film in there somewhere!

the best part of the film for me was Mark (Noah Huntley) describing how he'd tried to get out of London with his family and the Infection had spread like awave through the crowd at the railway station. Now that would have been worth seeing, it was terrifying just from the description. But unf. Danny can't do big scenes well

Selena was a waste of film, she was totally predictable. stock ballsy female character that's in everything now <yawn>

in fact i was so p*ssed off with Hannah (Megan Burns) that i quite wanted her to be killed/infected/used as a sex-slave by the soldiers/eaten for dinner, she was absolutley rubbish. i hope she didn't get paid for that dreadful performance and she'd best not put it on her CV either! pretty girl though..

to be fair he did write another ending but the theatrical release was with the "happy" ending. The "sad" endings a lot better!



Edited by - Tawakalna on 1/8/2004 7:47:40 AM