I liked the show. Did you know there is a Superman in every ep?
Hunh? I never noticed. What do you mean? This is interesting. So its more than just the Bizarro Jerry episode?
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Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:33 pm
@Taw,
Uhhhh. Zeitgeist.... *riffles pages* Oh. Nah. That's too high falutin'. ... Or is that just my zeitgeist?
*riffle, riffle, riffle, riffle ????* Gesamstkunstwerke.... What is that? Is that the precurser to the VW that the Wehrmacht used? Sort of like a jeep except that it was semi-amphibious?
@Comont
Hmmm. Let's see. Likes movies. Doesn't like sitcoms. Watches cartoons. OK. Got it. Well, Seinfeld is not a cartoon altho it may as well be one.
You like Family guy too? I just love that one. Futurama.... well, Simpsons is better, overall but, either way, Matt Groening is a genius.
Edited by - Indy11 on 17-11-2003 20:56:25
Uhhhh. Zeitgeist.... *riffles pages* Oh. Nah. That's too high falutin'. ... Or is that just my zeitgeist?
*riffle, riffle, riffle, riffle ????* Gesamstkunstwerke.... What is that? Is that the precurser to the VW that the Wehrmacht used? Sort of like a jeep except that it was semi-amphibious?
@Comont
Ok, I dont like seinfeld, i just found it boring, really really boring, you hear the audience burst in laughter and you try to realize what you just missed that was so funny. I dont watch many of the sitcoms on tv, i usually only watch movies and i would never ever ever miss a night of Futurama and Family Guy (my favorite show of all time, family guy) now that I think is real comedy, gets me to laugh out loud every single time. As for sex and the city and friends i just dont pay attention, I guess each one caters to different tastes. But the 2 I mentioned are my all time favorites.
Hmmm. Let's see. Likes movies. Doesn't like sitcoms. Watches cartoons. OK. Got it. Well, Seinfeld is not a cartoon altho it may as well be one.
You like Family guy too? I just love that one. Futurama.... well, Simpsons is better, overall but, either way, Matt Groening is a genius.
Edited by - Indy11 on 17-11-2003 20:56:25
Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:55 pm
ok i'll translate them, and explain their meanings
Zeitgeist="Spirit of the Age" a prevailing cultural idea or indeed ideal, concurrent with a particular period of time. for example we can speak of a 60's Zeitgest encompassing the fashions, art, music and cultural trends of that period e'.g. hippies, freelove, all that stuff. geddit?
Gesamstkunstwerke=all-together work of art, something that brings together words & music, visual arts, philosophy, religion and emotional impact. Wagner's operas can be considered to be Gesamstkunstwerken. u could consider many modern films to be Gesamstkunstwerken because they impact our senses, thoughts and emotions on many levels, I'd say the Matrix films or LotR trilogy fitted this description.
ok I was being a bit flash, I'm sorry (a bit) but they are ace words!
Zeitgeist="Spirit of the Age" a prevailing cultural idea or indeed ideal, concurrent with a particular period of time. for example we can speak of a 60's Zeitgest encompassing the fashions, art, music and cultural trends of that period e'.g. hippies, freelove, all that stuff. geddit?
Gesamstkunstwerke=all-together work of art, something that brings together words & music, visual arts, philosophy, religion and emotional impact. Wagner's operas can be considered to be Gesamstkunstwerken. u could consider many modern films to be Gesamstkunstwerken because they impact our senses, thoughts and emotions on many levels, I'd say the Matrix films or LotR trilogy fitted this description.
ok I was being a bit flash, I'm sorry (a bit) but they are ace words!
Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:03 pm
@Taw.
Oooo....kaaaaaay...... I will see what I can do but....ummm, this is Seinfeld we're really talking about so (*flinches as he imagines Arcon loading up to blast off another salvo*) .... it may be more than just a bit of a stretch especially on that "g" word.
Will now actually on purpose run the risk of spraining my brain....
Oooo....kaaaaaay...... I will see what I can do but....ummm, this is Seinfeld we're really talking about so (*flinches as he imagines Arcon loading up to blast off another salvo*) .... it may be more than just a bit of a stretch especially on that "g" word.
Will now actually on purpose run the risk of spraining my brain....
Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:28 am
Arcon is of course right on many counts. If Seinfeld had aired NOW, it would've been obsolete. BUT in the late 80s (or was it early 90s), they were quite the pioneers. Take the context of the era and zeitgeist (doh) into the equation. Trying to bring, ahem, comparing ArconTV to Seinfeld is like saying Tolkien stole his ideas from Warcraft 
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. Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:21 am
@Fear Factor
Show first aired as a pilot in 1989, summer.
I'm a little afraid to ask this but.... ArconTV = Warcraft? Seinfeld = Tolkien? I'm gonna overload. This is a little too over the top for me to take in.
Oh. And PS. How do I explain The Contestt episode, Master of His Domain, to Arcon without getting into TLR trouble?
@Taw
Pretty much the show is about the 90's I would say. Hmmm. The zeitgeist in the 90's, in New York...... the spirit of the age.
I wonder if one could elevate what was going on by defining it to be such a thing.
I mean, does every age actually have to have a spirit?
The show does play with the greed, exploitation and profiteering that went on in NYC.... but not directly through the action in the plots. Those "qualities" that are played up in the show are the ones that would set the character up for failure in that environment.
For example: In one show, Cosmo Kramer becomes a suit wearing working stiff. He head's off to work every morning, briefcase in hand. The problem, of course, is that the place where he works never hired him and his work is crap anyway. At the end, the man he reports to tells him he has to go.
Kramer indignantly objects to the man and says something like: "You don't even pay me for what I do!" To which the man replies ....
drum roll for the punchline and the zeitgeist........
"And that's the shame of it."
Edited by - Indy11 on 18-11-2003 02:22:18
Edited by - Indy11 on 18-11-2003 02:39:09
Edited by - Indy11 on 20-11-2003 21:50:16
Show first aired as a pilot in 1989, summer.
Trying to bring, ahem, comparing ArconTV to Seinfeld is like saying Tolkien stole his ideas from Warcraft
I'm a little afraid to ask this but.... ArconTV = Warcraft? Seinfeld = Tolkien? I'm gonna overload. This is a little too over the top for me to take in.
Oh. And PS. How do I explain The Contestt episode, Master of His Domain, to Arcon without getting into TLR trouble?
@Taw
Pretty much the show is about the 90's I would say. Hmmm. The zeitgeist in the 90's, in New York...... the spirit of the age.
I wonder if one could elevate what was going on by defining it to be such a thing.
I mean, does every age actually have to have a spirit?
The show does play with the greed, exploitation and profiteering that went on in NYC.... but not directly through the action in the plots. Those "qualities" that are played up in the show are the ones that would set the character up for failure in that environment.
For example: In one show, Cosmo Kramer becomes a suit wearing working stiff. He head's off to work every morning, briefcase in hand. The problem, of course, is that the place where he works never hired him and his work is crap anyway. At the end, the man he reports to tells him he has to go.
Kramer indignantly objects to the man and says something like: "You don't even pay me for what I do!" To which the man replies ....
drum roll for the punchline and the zeitgeist........
"And that's the shame of it."
Edited by - Indy11 on 18-11-2003 02:22:18
Edited by - Indy11 on 18-11-2003 02:39:09
Edited by - Indy11 on 20-11-2003 21:50:16
Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:09 pm
I wrote this last night...the server wouldnt let me post so i saved it and posted it now. Sorry if its a bit late:
before i start:
Aloof American living in a New York appartment with at least one clutz of a friend who always end up no better than how they started. *yawn*
anyway. I zeitgeist, zeitgeist that the 1990s zeitgeist was the square of the zeitgeist on a zeitgeist is equal to the sum of the zeitgeist on the other two zeitgeists.
now that ive done the obligitary "zeitgeist your post into the Xen Dimention" i can begin.
Firstly. "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong" is what they should just tell tv audiences when they goto see whatever show filmed in front of a "live studio audience" (although its not so i dont even know why im doing this) because if a main character has a really important dinner theyre gonna goto and they over emphasise that they need it to go fine. i will give a slap in the face to the guy that doesnt see a total balls up of the dinner coming from the get go. Sienfeld is GENERIC sitcom. Sure it may have been the first. doesnt make it better. Simpsons did the cartoon family first...Family Guy is better.
Comparing Sienfeld and ArconTV: The Series to Tolkien and Warcraft is a bit of a stretch. I'm saying that people go "OMG sienfeld is so freaking funny, he like TOTALLY did what i feel deep inside but cant do because its not considered correct...like spitting on a homeless or shouting 'STOP SPREADING AIDS' to a gay guy" about a show that when i watch its just some guy going "look at me please...i'm SOOO taboo"
"no your not you ****ing hack, like south park ceased to be funny once the 'this is new' factor wore off"
(Disclaimer: I dont mean to be offensive there, if any of you guys have listened to 80s and early 90s stand up comedy, in particular eddie murphy's earlier stuff, theres A LOT of ignorance and outright fear of homosexuals)
"it has to start somewhere, it has to start sometime, what better place than here, what better time than now"
Edited by - Arcon on 19-11-2003 05:43:16
before i start:
I mean, a mad Brit? Ho hum. What else is new. *yawn*
Aloof American living in a New York appartment with at least one clutz of a friend who always end up no better than how they started. *yawn*
anyway. I zeitgeist, zeitgeist that the 1990s zeitgeist was the square of the zeitgeist on a zeitgeist is equal to the sum of the zeitgeist on the other two zeitgeists.
now that ive done the obligitary "zeitgeist your post into the Xen Dimention" i can begin.
Firstly. "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong" is what they should just tell tv audiences when they goto see whatever show filmed in front of a "live studio audience" (although its not so i dont even know why im doing this) because if a main character has a really important dinner theyre gonna goto and they over emphasise that they need it to go fine. i will give a slap in the face to the guy that doesnt see a total balls up of the dinner coming from the get go. Sienfeld is GENERIC sitcom. Sure it may have been the first. doesnt make it better. Simpsons did the cartoon family first...Family Guy is better.
Comparing Sienfeld and ArconTV: The Series to Tolkien and Warcraft is a bit of a stretch. I'm saying that people go "OMG sienfeld is so freaking funny, he like TOTALLY did what i feel deep inside but cant do because its not considered correct...like spitting on a homeless or shouting 'STOP SPREADING AIDS' to a gay guy" about a show that when i watch its just some guy going "look at me please...i'm SOOO taboo"
"no your not you ****ing hack, like south park ceased to be funny once the 'this is new' factor wore off"
(Disclaimer: I dont mean to be offensive there, if any of you guys have listened to 80s and early 90s stand up comedy, in particular eddie murphy's earlier stuff, theres A LOT of ignorance and outright fear of homosexuals)
"it has to start somewhere, it has to start sometime, what better place than here, what better time than now"
Edited by - Arcon on 19-11-2003 05:43:16
Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:28 pm
@arcon god damn!! I give up! I think I may have to change my signature...this agreeing with you **** has got to stop.
Seinfeld sucks balls big time....I would put it down to being the difference between the american and british sense of humour...but I can't....there are plenty of american programmes out there that make me laugh heartier than I would to their english equivalents (coupling? two pints of lager? oh dear). Sorry, but Seinfeld just ain't funny.
Seinfeld sucks balls big time....I would put it down to being the difference between the american and british sense of humour...but I can't....there are plenty of american programmes out there that make me laugh heartier than I would to their english equivalents (coupling? two pints of lager? oh dear). Sorry, but Seinfeld just ain't funny.
